Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby koonce727 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:44 am

Close enough to where I can shoot the hens that decoy to your spread :biggrin:
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby mikeg1005 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:06 pm

send the dog wrote:The people that determine the health, population, and future for migratory game birds and other game also work for the government. I don't know about you, but, i don't put a whole lot of faith in a government that i do not trust.


Yes... the government is feeding us information that is actually killing off the duck population.. but they put bag limits to fool everyone to think they are actually doing something to protect them, because they somewhat limit us. Got it.

Pass the tinfoil, my ball cap isn't going to work for this.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby send the dog » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:45 pm

mikeg1005 wrote:
send the dog wrote:The people that determine the health, population, and future for migratory game birds and other game also work for the government. I don't know about you, but, i don't put a whole lot of faith in a government that i do not trust.


Yes... the government is feeding us information that is actually killing off the duck population.. but they put bag limits to fool everyone to think they are actually doing something to protect them, because they somewhat limit us. Got it.

Pass the tinfoil, my ball cap isn't going to work for this.


Ever heard of "earn-a-buck"? Now, that was a great government idea wasn't it? Just because they pour the kool-aid, doesn't mean you have to drink it.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby Bill Herian » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:17 pm

send the dog wrote:Ever heard of "earn-a-buck"? Now, that was a great government idea wasn't it? Just because they pour the kool-aid, doesn't mean you have to drink it.


I agree, thats why in addition to shooting hens, I over bag, shoot lead, hunt before and after LST, and bait my favorite spots with corn.

Bunch of ham-handed government morons think they know whats best? Either they should be right all the time, or just pack up and go home.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:33 pm

ho hum....you guys dont know just how lucky you are to have someone TRYING to MANAGE your game herds..... I bet you would all be crying in your milk if the venison hawks got stuck in with hughes 500s and decimated your deer numbers till you were lucky to spook a deer in one outing out of three. been there done that.your country men nearly wiped out your ducks back in the market hunting days and THAT my good man is what started the management you are so fond of bitching about.your countrymen did the same with buffalo/bison and there were a hell of alot less guys hunting then with less techno advantage.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby DKMF » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:02 pm

Hey don't mess with the guys that have the two time world war championship under their belts...Foreigner!
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:02 am

and who was there alongside your men at those times????
before you in the 2nd case in fact????
Im not knocking the good ol USA just pointing out the facts as they are....the rules were made to try and look after YOUR resource,
without the good work done you guys wouldnt have game left to shoot at PERIOD.
its like guys bitching about killing power of steel....ask them how many rounds they fire...2 or 3 boxes...suggest they buy a heavi alternative instead and they moan about the price yet will happily spend 2-$300 on booze and gas for the weekend.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby mikebosmans » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:03 am

So...Eh... How close is too close?
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby Trent_Rivers » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:30 am

When a duck swings around to take a look at your neighbors spread and it's almost in range... Your too close haha you can thank me for pointing out the obvious


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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby triggertime » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:42 am

I have hunted the mississipi for 8 years and i have noticed you get the first big push of pussys first 2 weeks in oct then they thin out. i scout scout scout. i find out what birds want and will leave hours b4 the first boat. I am always the first guy on the marsh end up setting up light and going to bed. Even with the pressure i shoot limits, just need to know how to do it. I know peoples boats and who skybusts. I never set up on anyone try keep my distance at least 300 yards at that range shot wont hurt you. With shows like duck dynasty everyone thinks they can duck hunt and it kinda sicking. Weekend warriors is what i call them lol. I had a situation in Kansas when i was stationed thier. Kansas does alot for waterfowl the had planted a corn feild harvested it and then flooeded it and it was load with birds. I new it was gonna get hit hard by people to. so i showed up at 8pm the night before and set up my light and went to sleep well when i woke up at 5 i was surrounded and i no crap had a guy 50 yards off my decoys in the landing zone. My buddy walked out to tell them they were to close and they needed to move and they were like were you want me to go. They got in a heated debate and i walked out to cool it down. i told them to move up and hunt with us and look the other way they could have birds from that way and vs verse. actually worked out good and they left 2 hours after opener. If people would work togther on it and talk we might beable to work it out. I also think the dnr need to come out and see who sets up next to each other and measure it out and give tikets that would put the hurt on some ppl.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:49 am

plurry good idea trigger. we have a 90yrd rule over here and I havent seen it needed to be enforced YET. funny our shot size is limited to energy of a lead#BB at 90 yards too. guess the 2 are tied together.
co operation with each other can go a long way to solving issues too.
the best one Ive heard was back in the day when it was illegal to bait for birds the ranger would go see the disputing groups carrying a small bag of barley and tell the guys they had 5 minutes to sort it out or he would bait the ground making area unhuntable..apparently he never needed to follow through with it :thumbsup:
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby Maxgold » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:18 pm

This subject needs to be revisited.

If you're setting up less than 250 yards from another group that was there first, you're being a jerk. Go somewhere else - or get out earlier or get out of bed earlier - ITS THAT SIMPLE.

Stop ruining the damn sport for the rest of us who try to respect other hunters and who respect the sport of waterfowling.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby Grouse » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:53 pm

I prefer at least 1/4 mile. I grouse hunt a lot if I see other pickups I assume they are bow hunting and go elsewhere. Ducking I am at launch at 3 am. In spot #1 at 325. If you wanted my spot get there earlier than I.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby WisconsinWaterfowler » Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:42 am

Grouse wrote:I prefer at least 1/4 mile. I grouse hunt a lot if I see other pickups I assume they are bow hunting and go elsewhere. Ducking I am at launch at 3 am. In spot #1 at 325. If you wanted my spot get there earlier than I.

I'd much rather get there 30 minutes before LST and set up 50 yards from you. Need the beauty sleep, ya know?
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby colemk12 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:35 pm

I think Wisconsin should adopt the lottery system. Public lands should be split up into pools. When you show up at the landing or lot you draw for a pool. If you show up to late your out of luck and you come back the next day early. This would take care of some of the smaller lands that get crushed on the weekends and allow you enough space from others to let the birds work your spread without getting sky blasted out of the area. I know I am not a perfect person and have made my fair share of mistakes learning as I go, but some people just baffle me. Just on Friday I showed up and was the first one in the marsh. 10 minutes to shooting two guys walk up and say, "shoot someone is already there in the spot i wanted." So no joke they walk down 150 years and set up. Then they start sky blasting birds locked on to our spread, wing a hen mallard and leave. Not to mention as they are sky blasting they are spraying us with shot. Worst and most frustrating day ever. It was Friday I decided from now on I need to find the spots that those are unwilling to go even if it means an hour walk through the reeds. Either way I am too addicted to this sport to give it up and just find myself shaking my head wondering where the respect for others has gone.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby mikeg1005 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:45 am

Skybusting when they do it. Misjudged the lead when you do it.

I make it an effort to have as many people as possible set up around me during duck hunting. It makes me a seasoned veteren for dealing with people come rifle deer opening weekend.

Last year and 3 years ago I had some guy walk around my stand like 5 mins before shooting time. Had one guy say oh I usually hunt here as he sat down on a bucket... under my tree ... Cool story, public land and I got here 3 hours early.... and I missed a chance at a doe last year 2 mins into shooting time on opening day because it was walking where I last saw the guy decide to sit down 40yds away.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby Bill Herian » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:08 pm

I get to know the trucks, the rigs, and to some extent the people that hunt the same areas I do. I'll show you the same courtesy you show me. It's not a turn the key and go place. I don't want to sound self righteous but the guys who go "back there" are working harder than most, and are for the most part, easy to hunt beside. If you are unloading for the walk in when I pull up, and we walk in together, I ask where you had planned on going.

In the end its public ground, if you don't like what you see, source better spots.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby jägare » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:44 am

Pete-pec wrote:It has gotten so bad, I have went back to bow hunting. I duck hunt almost exclusively in other states at this point in my life. I can afford it, it happens to allow you some of the finest gunning there is, and you can shoot perfectly plumed birds in January which is very important for me being a hobbyist taxidermist. Now I hunt the rut here in Wisconsin, don't have to deal with D-bags, and life has never been better.

No offense, but the average (so-called) sportsman is NOT a sportsman at all. That must be a title they give themselves when they wear camo and pull the trigger?

I have witnessed every sort of unhuman-like behavior out in the marsh. This applies to fishermen and the human race in general. No one holds doors, says please and thank you, and smiles for God's sake. The satire that comes off on the computer has gone from sarcasm to plain mean at times.

I try to treat people as I want to be treated. If someone treads on me, God forbid the wrath that comes their way, and likewise when I meet a good fella, they are welcome in our blind anytime!

Be nice, be fair, and remember to enjoy the scenery rather than think about the kill. That is just icing on the cake, and if you overlook the work it took to get a flock to decoy, you missed the real intent of this sport.

Good luck everyone! If you haven't hunted outside of Wisconsin, I suggest giving it a try. There is some great damn hunting out there!



What states do you hunt in?
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby jägare » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:51 am

recker wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmBm3pKWEmk

Maybe if people didnt post videos like this and say they lost ducks because they didnt have a dog hunting might be viewed better in the public eye. Its all about the kill to so many. Sick.


So sad. Not sportsmen at all.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby eire » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:29 pm

It's funny how everyone is talking yardage... Setting up in the dark.. you can't tell yardage if you try. One mans head light vs. someone's spotting light going through the marsh and rice is pretty tough to judge and I've been doing it a very long time.

My first pet peeve... You slow the boat, look around and see nothing. Set up your dekes and as the light tips the horizon....bam, bam, bam... you set up right next to someone. D'A'ssss. Listen, to those new to duck hunting or haven't learned anything.. keep your light on like a few of the posts before stated! I don't want to be next to you (just as much you don't want me shooting all your ducks) so make sure I see you. If its during lighted hours before the night flight setup... stand up you lazy bastards...lol A guy in a boat can't see through 8ft high rice grass when your all camo'd up.

If your hunting the Nelson Alma corridor, we need to get as many hunters together to get Big Lake off the reserve. Wisconsin Waterfowl Association folded when it came to protecting that area for hunting. I mean they folded. They talked for nearly a year that they were going to defend it which put a lot of hunters giving them the drivers seat and when it came to do something.. they decided it was better for them, WWA, to take the federal money on projects, and quietly let Big Lake be taken over by the feds even though the Wisconsin constitution is very, very clear that the Federal government could not convert it to reserve. DU did nothing in Wisconsin either. Why am I saying this.. because when Big Lake was open, there wasn't nearly as many hunters on top of each other which has made duck hunting very dangerous. Protect the ducks is great, but not at the expense that it may kill a few Wisconsin hunters or their kids. The feds didn't care about that one bit. The impact on the duck population from our northern miss location is peanuts in comparison to those ducks having to go through 5 duck hunting states to get south.

I would love to get as many Miss river hunters that hunt/or have hunted the Nelson / alma area together and see what organizations, political groups and politicians we can rattle cages with to get something done before the news is showing dead hunters...either through accidents or river rage.
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Re: Opinion: How close is too close to set up?

Postby mikeg1005 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:36 am

When you are stuck in a situation where you are hunting close to other people (because lets face it, Saturday mornings are like that in some areas) do everyone a favor and please don't shoot at birds that it is unlikely for you to hit.

If you are hunting by yourself, go ahead and blast away as many groups as your heart desires... but I can't tell you the number of times we've had groups coming in that flew a little too high over someone else's blind and they did the last second desperate single shot to see if they can drop one. Its annoying and it never works.

Same thing with calling, I try not to call at bird that are working someone else's decoys.
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