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best shells for 2013 season

Postby mv.murphy » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:02 am

Anyone have input on the best 2013 12GA shells. I'm not a sky buster and only shoot committed birds, so no need for 60 yrd shells.
Thanks for the help!!
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby 10gaOkie » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:00 am

As always, its hard to beat Kent Fasteel. My favorite loads are the 2 3/4" 1 1/8oz #2s, 3" 1 1/4oz #1s. Unfortunately, in my area, factory steel shot ammo is hard to come by. The dealers are just not stocking it this year. Glad Im a reloader and dont have to depend of factory stuff.

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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby mv.murphy » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:06 am

thanks, Chris.. Best of Luck this season..

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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby BBK » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:10 am

Whatever patterns best. Every shell on the market will kill a decoying bird.
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby Hat Flats » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:38 pm

The "latest and greatest shells" are just gimmicks designed to give you a false sense of confidence and separate you from your hard earned money. The very best bang for your buck is a good quality 3" 1 1/4oz load of 2's or 3's at 1450 FPS on average that combo will out pattern all the others and kill ducks with boring consistency all while not putting undue stress on your Ears, Shoulder or Gun. You just need to find the brand your gun likes the best there are no short cuts! 25 years in the blind 1000's of birds bagged, hours and hours at the patterning board and way to much money wasted on the flavor of the week shells have borne this out time after time.

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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:43 pm

I will agree with 10ga up to a point...for me the 1 1/8th loads were just the ticket in #2 or #3 gamebore worked well and winch xpert was a great killer of birds if you can find it cheap enough.mallards are our main bird thus shot sizes. for me having speed up n over 1500fps is the ticket.
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby 10gaOkie » Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:10 pm

With #4s I prefer 1550fps. With #2s I like 1450 to 1500fps. With big pellets in the 10ga I like 1450fps.

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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:13 pm

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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby MK10 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:29 am

mv.murphy wrote:Anyone have input on the best 2013 12GA shells. I'm not a sky buster and only shoot committed birds, so no need for 60 yrd shells.
Thanks for the help!!


Winchester Drylok (12g, 3", 1-1/4oz #2 and #3)

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Gamebore 3" Magnum Mammoth (12g, 3", 1-1/4oz #1, #3 and #4)..................I wish these guys made this load in #2's
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby z51 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:01 am

Remington Nitro Steel 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 at 1450 fps. High quality load with plated shot.
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby Hat Flats » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:35 pm

+1 Z51, 3", 1 1/4oz Nitro Steel performed excellent in all respects in every gun I tried it in, Truly an underrated load in my eyes.

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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby MK10 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:05 am

Hat Flats wrote:+1 Z51, 3", 1 1/4oz Nitro Steel performed excellent in all respects in every gun I tried it in, Truly an underrated load in my eyes.

Kurt


Agreed :thumbsup:

This specific load (in #2 and #3) has always delivered the goods for me, but it's rare here, I suspect due to its cost.
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby BBK » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:27 am

Wanted to try it once, was marked $18.99 for 3" 1 1/4. No thanks. Way too much for a premium steel, that's up into specialty steel pricing. At 50% more than what I pay for my every day shells those nitros better kill two with one shot each time to make it worth while. :lol3:
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby z51 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:58 am

He ask for the BEST, not the latest Wally World special. Nitro Steel locally is 159.90 per case for 3 1/2" 1 9/16" ounce load. The 3" are 119.90 per case here now, and were at Rogers last time I looked. Where do you buy your shells the Orvis Shop? :rolleyes:
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby 10gaOkie » Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:20 am

At stores that are normally the best prices around, Rem 2 3/4 Nitro Steel are going for $26 a box. Where the same thing is $99 a case from Rogers. These crazy prices just seem to be on Remington. I dont get it.

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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby Frank Lopez » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:55 am

Brand loyalty aside, I think that from the replies so far, it's plain to see that your best bet is plain old premium steel in whatever brand patterns best in your gun. And, be advised that under the majority of circumstances, there isn't going to be enough difference in patterns between brands in shells of equal quality. You can't go wrong with Fedremkentchester! :lol3:

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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby z51 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:31 am

10gaOkie wrote:At stores that are normally the best prices around, Rem 2 3/4 Nitro Steel are going for $26 a box. Where the same thing is $99 a case from Rogers. These crazy prices just seem to be on Remington. I dont get it.

Chris


I'll lay it out for you Chris. There are two factors at work. Rogers makes large quantity commitments to Remington like the local retailer I buy from. Secondly, at $26 per box your guy is doing some high margin price gouging. Your guy is probably buying small quantities through a jobber as well.
IT doesn't have much to do with shipping. The main Remington plant is in the Little Rock area, but it's straight down I-40 from OKC. A huge factor is the quantity of steel shot sold and consumed in this area compared to yours. That allows the local quantity commitments and discounts.
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby BBK » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:03 am

z51 wrote:He ask for the BEST, not the latest Wally World special. Nitro Steel locally is 159.90 per case for 3 1/2" 1 9/16" ounce load. The 3" are 119.90 per case here now, and were at Rogers last time I looked. Where do you buy your shells the Orvis Shop? :rolleyes:


Look at rogers again. Regular price $216.90 on sale for $119.99. Sold out way back in early spring. I would have bought a case or two at that price, but when I looked back in march they were sold out and they still are. I buy 99% of my shells online. Locally they are expensive because my local shop simply cannot get shells. I stood behind the counter with him on Sat when he was going to make a shell order. Everything was gone except for a couple cases of speed shok 1 1/8, black cloud, blindside, and some 1 1/8 fasteel. For 3.5" there was nothing except blind side and fasteel 1 1/4 & 1 9/16. Doesn't matter the brand, both retailers I talked to said they simply CANNOT get any 1 1/4 #2 steel. Places like rogers, dunns, and macks order it all and leave nothing for the small retailers during a shortage.
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby SPatrick » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:09 am

I am a bit biased obviously, but I have been using Hevi metal for the past 4+ years, almost exclusively and it has been a great shell for me.
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby Frank Lopez » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:17 am

SPatrick wrote:I am a bit biased obviously, but I have been using Hevi metal for the past 4+ years, almost exclusively and it has been a great shell for me.


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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby drew_timothy » Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:22 pm

I shoot a bunch of federal blue box, relatively cheap and comes in good loads. Picked up a couple boxes of 2 3/4 #2's, 1 1/8 1375 fps for 11 bucks a box the other day. More than enough for early season birds in the decoys. I do prefer the nitro steels though later in the year but i too cant justify almost a dollar a pull on teal.
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Re: best shells for 2013 season

Postby z51 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:47 pm

BBK wrote:
z51 wrote:He ask for the BEST, not the latest Wally World special. Nitro Steel locally is 159.90 per case for 3 1/2" 1 9/16" ounce load. The 3" are 119.90 per case here now, and were at Rogers last time I looked. Where do you buy your shells the Orvis Shop? :rolleyes:


Look at rogers again. Regular price $216.90 on sale for $119.99. Sold out way back in early spring. I would have bought a case or two at that price, but when I looked back in march they were sold out and they still are. I buy 99% of my shells online. Locally they are expensive because my local shop simply cannot get shells. I stood behind the counter with him on Sat when he was going to make a shell order. Everything was gone except for a couple cases of speed shok 1 1/8, black cloud, blindside, and some 1 1/8 fasteel. For 3.5" there was nothing except blind side and fasteel 1 1/4 & 1 9/16. Doesn't matter the brand, both retailers I talked to said they simply CANNOT get any 1 1/4 #2 steel. Places like rogers, dunns, and macks order it all and leave nothing for the small retailers during a shortage.


It's a bit late for him to be making shell orders don't you think. I believe you may have pinpointed the problem. Of course the big retailers order big and commit early. That's how they got big. I am fortunate to have some of them locally. Duck hunting is a huge business here.
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