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Help with duck ID

Postby BonzaiDuck227 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:52 am

Shot this duck today down in the marsh and we really couldn't figure out exactly what it was, had a super long neck on it. Was thinking some sort of pintail or gadwall hybrid hen.

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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby Delta1389 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:13 pm

Young pintail drake
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby JuniorPre 360 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:29 pm

Delta1389 wrote:Young pintail drake

X2 the speculum and blue on the bill gave it away.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby BBK » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:31 pm

Delta1389 wrote:Young pintail drake


Yessir
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby jimmyduck » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:36 pm

It is an eclipse plumage Northern Pintail.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby BonzaiDuck227 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:07 pm

jimmyduck wrote:It is an eclipse plumage Northern Pintail.



What exactly does that mean?
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby BBK » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:07 pm

Immature, not fully colored.
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Help with duck ID

Postby hankyorke » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:27 pm

Spend the $10 and learn to ID ducks before you pull the trigger.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0811729826
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby BonzaiDuck227 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:47 am

I can ID ducks, just never saw a young pintail before. Think ill deff buy that off Amazon though, thanks for the link!
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Help with duck ID

Postby hankyorke » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:04 am

BonzaiDuck227 wrote:I can ID ducks


Oh, sorry. The thread you started titled "Help with duck ID" and the fact that you thought a juvie/eclipse drake pintail was possibly a hybrid hen Gadwall confused me. Please accept my sincerest apologies.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby SPatrick » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:19 pm

hankyorke wrote:
BonzaiDuck227 wrote:I can ID ducks


Oh, sorry. The thread you started titled "Help with duck ID" and the fact that you thought a juvie drake pintail was possibly a hybrid hen Gadwall confused me. Please accept my sincerest apologies.



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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby BonzaiDuck227 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:07 pm

No reason to be a wise@$$, it's not everyday I see a juvenile pintail drake hunting in CT
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby ringneck004 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:55 pm

How can you ID pros tell the difference between an immature specimen and one that is mature but in eclipse plumage?
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby Smith » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:39 pm

I'm not a pro, but I was told years ago that the juvenile's tailfeathers end in a vee, while an adult duck's tailfeathers come to a sharp point. We were told that the juvenile's feathers were literally worn out because they have been carrying these feathers since hatching, while the adult will have just gone through a molt prior to the duck season, and its tailfeathers are brand new, therefore they are still sharply pointed.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby SPatrick » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:01 pm

One way to tell in pintails is by looking at the edging on the tertials. There is no black edging on there, so most likely an immature bird. Looking at secondary's as well as tertials on birds is usually a good indicator based on if they have notching in the feathers. If you wanna get real down and dirty you can pop the cloaca...I'll stick with the feathers. Long and short of the deal, study your duck ID, I would never expect someone to know age of the bird, but you should at least know your indicators as to what it is before you pull the trigger.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby Sammyj30 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:45 pm

That just looks like a hen pintail to me
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby Delta1389 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:30 pm

Def not a hen. Look at the bill. It's a dead give away.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby dakotashooter2 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:14 am

Lots and lots and lots of very young birds this years. I still saw new broods as late as early August........... I was out at our lagoon around the 10th of October and among probably 500 ducks didn't see a single puddler with "color"........
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby scruggs12 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:18 pm

JuniorPre 360 wrote:
Delta1389 wrote:Young pintail drake

X2 the speculum and blue on the bill gave it away.


Aren't pintail speculums green? Drakes are greenish while hens are brownish. Could have some black duck mixed in, they have a purple speculum.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby BBK » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:07 pm

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It is a drake pintail though, no doubt about it.

I just shot a drake pintail last sat, it had a tiny bit of green to the speculum but mostly brown.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby scruggs12 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:13 pm

BBK wrote:Image

It is a drake pintail though, no doubt about it.

I just shot a drake pintail last sat, it had a tiny bit of green to the speculum but mostly brown.



Definitely a drake pintail, but it is mixed with something. The color on the picture is purple, not brown.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby Delta1389 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:45 pm

It's all about how the light hits the speculum. The speculum IS green but I've seen plent of pictures with birds where the speculum looked purple.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby cluckmeister » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:02 pm

Id say its a Pintail hatch of the year, Now if we were hunting under the old point system, how many points would it be?
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby Smith » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:11 pm

Point systems varied by region and year to year. Here in Michigan, the pintail was a 10 point bird when I started hunting, as was the bluebill (greater and lesser) and teal (bw and gw). Not only that, we had an extended "bluebill only" season after the regular duck season ended. Of course, that was somewhat offset by a complete closure on redheads and canvasbacks in my portion of the state. My, how things change.
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Re: Help with duck ID

Postby cluckmeister » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:28 pm

Smith, they were 10 points here in Kansas also, but, the true answer would be 100 points, according to a Federal Game Warden I talked with in the good old days (LOL) Any bird/species that positively can not be identified would be considered a 100 point bird. I found this out after shooting what I thought was a Pintail/ Hen Mallard cross, he said he wouldn't fine me for being over the points limits BUT the next time I shoot a duck like this as the first duck of the day consider my day over. BTW they can actually tell with in reason the order in which you shoot the ducks by sticking a thermometer up each ducks butt and taking the temperature.
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