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Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Cougar125 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:48 pm

Shot these ducks today. My best guess is juvenile hen paradise shelducks, native to New Zealand. Anybody else come across these near Whidbey Island???

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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby kcidkcus » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:08 pm

So you are the guy i caught on my trail cam shooting my pet ducks off my pond!
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby h2ofowlr » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:50 pm

Probably raised by someone. I know another spot where you never know what might come in. Mandarins, whistling ducks etc. they can't fly the best. :yes:
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Cougar125 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:00 pm

h2ofowlr wrote:Probably raised by someone. I know another spot where you never know what might come in. Mandarins, whistling ducks etc. they can't fly the best. :yes:

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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby viking fan » Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:41 am

My qustion is, If you dont know what they are why shoot them? Whats the limit? Can you shoot hens?
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:16 am

nope they arent parries .look very similar but heads are wrong colour they dont come in dusty brown. the young females are black all over just like males and have bright white head and that chestnut body colour when older. close but no cigar.
maybe???? Aussie mountain ducks???? close relo of parries :huh:
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:39 am

found them
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a long way from home in Asia or Europe!!!!
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Cougar125 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:05 am

viking fan wrote:My qustion is, If you dont know what they are why shoot them? Whats the limit? Can you shoot hens?

They were either a duck or a goose through my binoculars and I couldn't find them in the regs. They would've counted against my general limit for ducks. After I had them in hand I took pictures and sent them to my contact at F&G and gave him a call. He had no idea what they were but is passing the information onto the regional biologist.

I guess it'd be like that Falcated Teal that was in California a few years ago. If a lot of people didn't know what it was, but knew it was a duck, they'd shoot it.
Elvis Kiwi wrote:found them
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby COYOTE JLR » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:53 am

That's a cool find! Think you'll get them mounted?
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby JuniorPre 360 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:58 am

viking fan wrote:My qustion is, If you dont know what they are why shoot them? Whats the limit? Can you shoot hens?

If there is a restriction on a specific species, be sure and not shoot them. For example, if one is not allowd to shoot a canvasback, make sure the ducks you are shooting at aren't huge and have a big red head. If it's anything else that you can positively ID as a duck, BLAST IT! Looks to me that the OP made a correct decision in trying to ID the birds, made sure there wasn't a restriction, and took them.
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Cougar125 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:31 pm

COYOTE JLR wrote:That's a cool find! Think you'll get them mounted?

Hell yeah! Already told the wife I was. She rolled her eyes at me and asked what it was going to cost and where I would put them.
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby duckdogger07 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:52 am

So did you pull a triple or did they come in separately and were there more?
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Cougar125 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:37 am

duckdogger07 wrote:So did you pull a triple or did they come in separately and were there more?

Triple with witnesses. ;)
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Lost Fish » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:53 pm

Talked to a friend of mine today and he said that if you look at the claw's and see if any of them have been clip then they are Avery birds. So take a look and see if they got away or you have birds with some long wings.
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby scott2613 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:10 pm

Very cool, I would be getting one or two mounted as well. Congrats!
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby wanapasaki » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:21 pm

Wow, were they all alone or were there others with them? Imagine what kind of stories those birds could tell. Such a long way from home. The only proper thing to do, is mount them. Way cool congrats :thumbsup:
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Cougar125 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:45 pm

Lost Fish wrote:Talked to a friend of mine today and he said that if you look at the claw's and see if any of them have been clip then they are Avery birds. So take a look and see if they got away or you have birds with some long wings.

All toes/declaws were present and there were no notches cut in any webs.
scott2613 wrote:Very cool, I would be getting one or two mounted as well. Congrats!

That's the plan! Doing a combo mount. 1 standing, another hanging dead beneath to show the speculum.
wanapasaki wrote:Wow, were they all alone or were there others with them? Imagine what kind of stories those birds could tell. Such a long way from home. The only proper thing to do, is mount them. Way cool congrats :thumbsup:
There were 3 of them sitting in with a group of gulls. As I got closer, the gulls lifted, but the ducks stayed until I was within 30 yards. Dropped them off tonight. Should have them back soon since the taxi hasn't really had anything new come in lately.
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:40 pm

look forward to seeing the finished result.
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Just Hunt » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:12 am

Posting pictures of something you shot. And not sure. Like the guy that posted 2 hen scoters
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Cougar125 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:43 am

Elvis Kiwi wrote:look forward to seeing the finished result.

They'll definitely be posted.

Today I'm going to contact the WA Ornithological Society and talk to them as well...see if any reports have ever been made in WA regarding this species.
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby kcidkcus » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:44 am

Just Hunt wrote:Posting pictures of something you shot. And not sure. Like the guy that posted 2 hen scoters

Wasn't there a third scoter? Lol
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Cougar125 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:01 am

Just Hunt wrote:Posting pictures of something you shot. And not sure. Like the guy that posted 2 hen scoters

I was sure they weren't a species I could only shoot 1 or 2. I was certain they were waterfowl, most resembling a goose. I made the decision to harvest the birds, then contacted F&G to inquire as to what they were before posting up here. They're actually quite intrigued by these, but believe they are aviary escapees. I was instructed they would've counted towards my overall duck limit since they are ducks.
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Like what has already been discussed, I made sure they weren't a restricted species first before pulling the trigger. I guess by using the same logic that a few are portraying in this thread, hybrids shouldn't be shot at either. :huh: With that said, please introduce me to a single hunter that wouldn't pull the trigger on any hybrid that flew by while sitting in their blind. :rolleyes:
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Trent_Rivers » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:51 am

Don't worry about that guy. He just wishes he could triple on such a cool bird.


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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby duckdogger07 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:39 pm

So did u shoot the only 3 that you seen or were there more birds?
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Re: Did I shoot somebody's pets??

Postby Cougar125 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:48 pm

duckdogger07 wrote:So did u shoot the only 3 that you seen or were there more birds?

There were only 3 and I got em all.


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