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Rice Breast

Postby JTR » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:56 pm

Anyone ever seen it in sea ducks? I thought it was just a puddler thing, until I opened up an eider yesterday with full blown rice breast.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby Professor_Leakey » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:16 pm

yeah it happens in sea ducks, too. here is a good writeup on rice breast for you, JTR. ive only ever seen it firsthand once, in a mallard i shot. it is nasty looking.

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/field_manual/chapter_28.pdf
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby MIKE J. » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:24 pm

A little soy sauce and the guest wont know the difference :wink:
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby Professor_Leakey » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:32 pm

just make sure to serve it over rice.

yeah they say it is safe to eat, but i couldnt do it.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby JTR » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:15 pm

MIKE J. wrote:A little soy sauce and the guest wont know the difference :wink:


Funny you say that... A little soy sauce and Ruger didn't know the difference either. I'll eat a sea duck... But a sea duck with rice breast... No thanks. I read something today that said that it definitely needs to be cooked before eaten, for dogs and humans. Just something to keep in mind for those feeding rice breast to the dog.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby JTR » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:18 pm

How about mercury and other contaminates in sea ducks? Anyone ever done any research into that? I know mussels accumulate mercury, so I'm wondering if eiders are heavy in mercury too.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby Professor_Leakey » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:24 pm

i have been told in the past that sea ducks do have high mercury levels but i cant cite any specific sources.

i really hope you cooked it before giving it to ruger because yeah, im pretty sure dogs can get it. cooking kils the parasite so im sure youre alright, but i think i would have tossed it.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby McManusClan5 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:42 pm

Man, mergansers can't buy a break (see link)... But, this study from 2006 showed that while there is detectable mercury and pesticides in geese and seaducks, and moreso in the East, the levels were low enough for Health Canada to declare them safe.

So, it's probably like GBT. They probably do have enough contaminants that if you eat a ton, you might have a slightly higher exposure (but maybe not an unsafe one, anyway), but not enough for me to pass on sashimi or bacon-wrapped-jalepeno-grilled-duck!

YMMV

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16502031

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Re: Rice Breast

Postby Joser06 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:50 pm

I am getting skeeved out looking at those pictures. I deal with cod worms in fish all day and ricebreast still weirds me out. I am yet to see this myself , thank God. Besides in the eider has anyone seen this in MA ducks?
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby wsumner » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:22 pm

Yes found it in a black duck that I shot out of a tidal ditch in Plymouth. Only time I have seen it.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby JTR » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:35 am

Yeah I cooked it Leakey. He wouldn't eat much of it anyways. Looked at me like "you expect me to keep eating this!?".

In terms of other mass ducks with it, I've shot a black and a mallard with it in the past couple years. Those were tossed.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby Joser06 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:20 pm

I think it is funny this topic was brought up in the last week as today I got my first rice breast bird. I shot a big drake mallard today, by looks of it a mature bird. I was really excited to eat it because of its size but upon cutting it open, this is what I found.Image

I feel bad doing it but I can't bring myself to eat it.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby McManusClan5 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:31 pm

Joser06 wrote:I think it is funny this topic was brought up in the last week as today I got my first rice breast bird. I shot a big drake mallard today, by looks of it a mature bird. I was really excited to eat it because of its size but upon cutting it open, this is what I found.Image

I feel bad doing it but I can't bring myself to eat it.


Bummer. :sad: I'd have trouble eating that, too (agree that it's somehow way worse than cod or dolphin worms...).
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby Maurry » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:37 pm

I took one look at a duck I shot and knew I couldn't eat it. I find it difficult to believe that anyone who saw it in a duck breast would go ahead and eat the duck. If so, you're a better man than I am.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby Professor_Leakey » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:32 pm

i just couldnt do it, either. just plain nasty looking.

from what i read, you normally see it in older birds, although it may still be present in the younger ones, just that theyre not showing the symptoms yet. ignorance is bliss.
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby McManusClan5 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:21 pm

Professor_Leakey wrote:i just couldnt do it, either. just plain nasty looking.

from what i read, you normally see it in older birds, although it may still be present in the younger ones, just that theyre not showing the symptoms yet. ignorance is bliss.


A good buddy of mine did some "work" in some mountainous areas of the less developed world. He always said there are two kinds of people, those that have worms and those that don't know they have worms.

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Re: Rice Breast

Postby Professor_Leakey » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:10 pm

i hear what youre saying...what you see with rice breast is not the parasite, though. they are cysts. equally unappetizing. barf.

as for the cod worms, i just pick em out and they dont bother me. i have even seen them in the smelt that i catch. when i shot my mallard with rice breast, i tried to pick them all out. i went through it thoroughly and found the cysts all through the breast and thigh meat. all over. ended up tossing it. hated doing it.

makes me wonder every time i whole roast a bird or breast it out leaving the skin on. :huh:
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Re: Rice Breast

Postby MassDecoyCarver » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:05 am

I've seen in many, many times in blacks and mallards shot in Westport.
It's never been so completely covered with the cysts that it caused me to chuck the breasts, but it certainly is un-appealing.

Thanks for posting the article, very informative.
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