Call Sticking After Use

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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby talkinfowl » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:43 pm

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talkinfowl wrote:I have an RNT short barrel that I absolutely love, but after I blow it and let it sit for more than a few seconds, it sticks. It does NOT lock up while I'm calling, only when it isn't in use. It's frustrating when calling and I set it down, pick it back up and it's stuck. Like I said, I can blow it constantly for 15 minutes and it not lock up (I've done it plenty of times) but as soon as I set it down for 30 seconds and try to blow it again, it's stuck. Anything I can do to help this? Thanks!

Mine does that too. The way I fixed it was to pull Reed out and dry it off. I was stuck with a sticking call and called Butch at RNT from my layout blind. Send it in he told me and was very nice.
did he get it fixed? I know Mr. Butch real well and I plan on sending him both of my RNT's after the season


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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby txhunter90 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:36 am

Trevor is right on this issue. There is no stick proof call. Just because you cant make your own call stick doesn't mean somebody else cant. Rnt's arent a good example I can make every one of them stick up and my spit is minimal. But I do love rnt. Is the company Kwackman calls lol??
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby skybusterbob » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:32 am

talkinfowl wrote:
skybusterbob wrote:
talkinfowl wrote:I have an RNT short barrel that I absolutely love, but after I blow it and let it sit for more than a few seconds, it sticks. It does NOT lock up while I'm calling, only when it isn't in use. It's frustrating when calling and I set it down, pick it back up and it's stuck. Like I said, I can blow it constantly for 15 minutes and it not lock up (I've done it plenty of times) but as soon as I set it down for 30 seconds and try to blow it again, it's stuck. Anything I can do to help this? Thanks!

Mine does that too. The way I fixed it was to pull Reed out and dry it off. I was stuck with a sticking call and called Butch at RNT from my layout blind. Send it in he told me and was very nice.
did he get it fixed? I know Mr. Butch real well and I plan on sending him both of my RNT's after the season


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I haven't sent it in yet but I plan on doing it tomorrow. I would imagine he will fix it just talking to him on the phone. He was a very nice guy.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby cleboje » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:17 pm

Txhunter90

Give Rich Peterson a shout at http://www.stinsonduckcalls.com/main2.html

I have one of his Holy Toledo single reeds with the micro-grooved tone board and it does not stick.

Rich also has several you-tube videos in which he demonstrates the non-stick properties of his calls...they are pretty impressive to say the least.

Check them out.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby aunt betty » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:42 pm

When I transitioned to single reed calls EVERY call would stick.
After I quit blowing and started grunting...only one sticks out of a pile of single reeds.
Trying to suggest that people who make calls stick...need to work on grunting and not blow as hard.

I get WAY more realistic sounds,, more control, less sticking, and more volume by grunting than I did when simply blowing on calls.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby SPatrick » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:46 pm

You obviously weren't putting air in correctly.
Why don't you post a sound file of you grunting, and I'll post a video of how you should actually present air into a call, and we will see what sounds more realistic.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Duck_Stank » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:55 pm

I grunt more with single reeds, adds the guttural sound. Spit wise its a matter of using the middle of your tongue to stop notes (less spit) or the tip of your tongue to stop notes, which leads to more spit. At least for me.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Trevor Shannahan » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:04 pm

:lol: at these guys saying to grunt into the call
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Duck_Stank » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:07 pm

Maybe hum is a better word?
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Duck_Stank » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:08 pm

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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby aunt betty » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:13 pm

Trevor Shannahan wrote::lol: at these guys saying to grunt into the call

They aren't laughing Trevor.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby SPatrick » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:14 pm

You should hardly ever if at all put any sound into a call. All hot clean air like you are fogging glass, or blowing into an old Nintendo game. Grunting into the call makes it sound HORRIBLE!!!
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby SPatrick » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:18 pm

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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Duck_Stank » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:18 pm

I hum, and use my throat and diaphragm. If that's not right, I'll be sure to tell dead fowl they were killed by an inferior caller. I'm sure you put voice in it? Some form of grunt or hum?
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby SPatrick » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:10 pm

none.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Duck_Stank » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:37 pm

How do meat call guys get the raspier greeting calls then? Or a course hen?
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby SPatrick » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:43 pm

all about changing the speed of the air you are putting in and changing your mouth cavity just slightly. Slower air, with a bit more open mouth cavity gives you that sound.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby aunt betty » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:47 pm

Duck_Stank wrote:How do meat call guys get the raspier greeting calls then? Or a course hen?

World champion duck callers are like Champion Trap n Sleet guys who can't kill a duck. Tim Bradley can't hit a duck...
That's why we can't agree.

I know it sounds awful to a human judge...but ducks ain't human.
Here is another world championship trophy...
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Duck_Stank » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:56 pm

I agree with the above notion aunt betty. We will have to make sure they know they were killed by a less than stellar calling approach. A lot of duck calls sound like duck calls to me, not real hens. Granted I'm a modified olt kinda guy.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby stumpjumper » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:07 pm

SPatrick wrote:You should hardly ever if at all put any sound into a call. All hot clean air like you are fogging glass, or blowing into an old Nintendo game. Grunting into the call makes it sound HORRIBLE!!!


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Duck_Stank wrote:How do meat call guys get the raspier greeting calls then? Or a course hen?


Deep hot slow air gated from the back of your tongue arch.
If your having to grunt into a call to get a raspy sound then your not presenting the air properly or the call your blowing is not capable of making that sound.

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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Duck_Stank » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:13 pm

I'm not as much a "grunter", I can feel noise from likely my vocal chords when I blow a duck horn using air from my sternum. I don't think I could ever break that habit. I don't sound bad but I'm no Kent cullum.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Scotty2hotty » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:21 pm

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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Duck_Stank » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:38 pm

After really paying attention to myself while calling, its almost like I build up pressure in my diaphragm then release the air emitting a throat like sound, making me have to use inflection to compensate for the higher pitch tone coming from the horn.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby SPatrick » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:29 pm

aunt betty wrote:World champion duck callers are like Champion Trap n Sleet guys who can't kill a duck. Tim Bradley can't hit a duck...
That's why we can't agree.

I know it sounds awful to a human judge...but ducks ain't human.
Here is another world championship trophy...


So you are a better hunter because you are not a contest caller, and guys like John Stephens, Brad Allen, Brett Crowe, Jim Ronquest (all world champs, one live duck champ)cant kill ducks...unreal. You need to lay off the peace pipe. If you would like I can post all kinds of pics of duck and goose limits, most involving more than one person as well. Easy to kill a limit all by yourself if you are in the right spot, most of the time you don't even need a call.
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Re: Call Sticking After Use

Postby Trevor Shannahan » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:04 pm

Duck_Stank wrote:Maybe hum is a better word?

Yup, but only on the deepest of hens, everything else is clean air
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