SpinnerMan wrote:You said that I was lying and recognized the need for authoritative control.
Can you point out where I accused you of lying? We're having a major disconnect on terms (even more major than usual) and perceived concepts here and I get the sense that's what's leading to the escalation and nastiness (very little of which has been coming from this end, I feel compelled to note). Well, that and the fact that you want to destroy the free market with anarchy
So just give your definition of a free market. It's that easy. You do have the ability to articulate your definition of a free market, do you not? This is how it works when you are trying to understand each other and solve a problem. To do that, you must find the points of misunderstanding and disagreement. This is what I do for a living and I do it very well. Obviously, I don't use a pugilistic style outside of the Controversial Issue forum on a duck hunting website.
I gave you my definition. You can edit it, totally rewrite it, give a completely different definition, ... Back seat driving, well any idiot can do that.
Bottom line is that I am pretty sure that you have never seriously contemplated what a real world free market would look like. When that market would fail in practice and what it would take to make it work in practice.
National defense is not nor never can be made to be a free market. The government literally has the authority to order you to your certain death in order to defend the nation.
Health care can and should be a very free market. It is no more complicated than caring for your home, your car, or your life. All things where insurance plays a significant role in doing that. Going back to Sesame Street logic, one of these things in not like the others. And that is the one that is failing badly, so the solution is probably not to make it even less like the others, but if you believe that authoritative control must be part of the solution, you probably won't see the difference.
The next question is how much regulation. The regulation needs to ensure that people are not being defrauded and not to control them so they make the "right" decision. It's to give them the tools to make the right decision and a large part of that comes in the K-12 education. Idiots cannot function in a free society any more than children. They do not to be controlled and if they remain idiots, they need to be controlled for their entire life since they never grow up. If you want to control people, having an educated and informed populace is counter productive, but you see no correlation with those seeking more control and the failure of them to educate anyone's children but their own future ruling class children.
There is no excuse for probably greater than 95% of high school graduates to not fully understanding the basics of insurance. It is an essential life skill and it should be an essential part of the curriculum. That is if you are to be a responsible adult and not a grown child letting others control this essential part of your life. Granted when you are young, you do not see the value, but as you and I well know, when you get older, it will be essential. However, given that 95% of the politicians do not understand insurance and it's limited but essential roll that it plays, we get debacles such as Obamacare. The market becomes less and less free, more and more controlled by corrupt and/or so-called authorities and as we see today millions end up suffering because that authority declares their insurance policy sub-par and they are unnecessarily left uninsured.
We are in a big
hole. We've been digging this giant hole for generations. It is going to be really
expensive to fill back in that big
hole. Putting subcharged equipment at the bottom of that hole and digging faster is not the answer, but you and those like you are so invested in decision to dig that hole that you will NEVER admit your error. Ironically, the cost of filling that hole back in will be the death knell for actually fixing it. You will be able to lie to yourself and others about the cost of more digging and those of us that want to fix it will not be able to lie to ourselves and others about the true cost of fixing it. So it want matter how many times, if you like it, you can keep it lies are exposed, enough people will want to believe that this time is not like all the others, when they really know that it is.
However, just put some thought in what a free market means to you. And don't give me that in the real world, nothing perfect exists. I already acknowledged that in my definition. Law enforcement is essential in the real world. Regulation is essential, but highly variable depending on the market. Regulation is NOT about control. It is not about deciding the outcome. It is about empowering people to make informed decisions and not trying to force them to not by insurance deemed subpar by a few hundred people in DC when MILLIONS have decided it was the best value for them at that time and under their current financial situation.
A politician thinks of the next election; a statesman of the next generation. A politician looks for the success of his party; a statesman for that of the country. The statesman wished to steer, while the politician was satisfied to drift.