Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby BBK » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:24 pm

DuckManClyde wrote:so the local dnr is the place to call right?


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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby assateague » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:05 pm

Tinner4 wrote:Hubby called the gw when a group shot 3 separate times before shooting time. I prefer that to a confrontation on the marsh.



I prefer someone not giving a damn what time someone else shoots.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby boney fingers » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:33 pm

assateague wrote:
Tinner4 wrote:Hubby called the gw when a group shot 3 separate times before shooting time. I prefer that to a confrontation on the marsh.



I prefer someone not giving a damn what time someone else shoots.



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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Botiz630 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:26 pm

You know what I hate more than sky busters? People who call it sky blasting.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Botiz630 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:26 pm

Gibronis.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby DuckManClyde » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:50 pm

assateague wrote:
Tinner4 wrote:Hubby called the gw when a group shot 3 separate times before shooting time. I prefer that to a confrontation on the marsh.



I prefer someone not giving a damn what time someone else shoots.


Time doesnt bother me as long as its within 5 or 6 minutes. If someone shoots 15-20 min. before thats BS. Im talking about calling on people who ( based on experience ) shoot where i can feel bbs sting as they hit me and my friends in the back. Or the people who flock shoot little song birds for fun when theres nothing else flying. Them bbs hurt man, just ask a duck, he'll tell you.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby assateague » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:10 pm

Botiz630 wrote:Gibronis.



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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby AKWoody » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:17 pm

Shell limits??!!?? That spure craxy talk. AT is spot on with his assesment! If the gubment is going to limit my shells, then I'm going back to lead!!!!
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Botiz630 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:30 pm

assateague wrote:
Botiz630 wrote:Gibronis.



Bubba!


I think I'm missing the reference. :huh:
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Grouse » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:50 pm

I guess I have been wrong for 30 sum years. I have always in any form of hunting had spot 1 2 3 in my mind. Never shown up late. Even grouse hunting if I see another vehical on public land I turn around and go to spot 2. If spot 3 is full I just go scouting.
New coarse 1) show up late / with hangover, 2) Shoot at anything then yell at someone and the dog , 3) Set up 50 yards from some one thats been there 2 hour prior. :huh: :huh: :help: :mad: :mad: :no: :help:
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Bill Herian » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:23 pm

Botiz630 wrote:Gibronis.


I always thought it was spelled Jabroni.

Gibronis are people who live on the strait of Gibraltor, between Spain and North Africa.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby assateague » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:23 pm

Botiz630 wrote:
assateague wrote:
Botiz630 wrote:Gibronis.



Bubba!


I think I'm missing the reference. :huh:



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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby assateague » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:29 pm

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:30 pm

Bill Herian wrote:
Botiz630 wrote:Gibronis.


I always thought it was spelled Jabroni.

Gibronis are people who live on the strait of Gibraltor, between Spain and North Africa.


Titz just hates all mediterranean cultures that aren't Italian.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Bill Herian » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:42 pm

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
Bill Herian wrote:
Botiz630 wrote:Gibronis.


I always thought it was spelled Jabroni.

Gibronis are people who live on the strait of Gibraltor, between Spain and North Africa.


Titz just hates all mediterranean cultures that aren't Italian.



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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:57 pm

Bill Herian wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
Bill Herian wrote:
Botiz630 wrote:Gibronis.


I always thought it was spelled Jabroni.

Gibronis are people who live on the strait of Gibraltor, between Spain and North Africa.


Titz just hates all mediterranean cultures that aren't Italian.



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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Botiz630 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:21 am

assateague wrote:
Botiz630 wrote:
assateague wrote:
Botiz630 wrote:Gibronis.



Bubba!


I think I'm missing the reference. :huh:



Bubba the Love Sponge. Used to toss around "Gibroni" as an insult all the time.


Ah, gotcha. Not familiar with Bubba, I'll have to look it up.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Botiz630 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:25 am

Bill Herian wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
Bill Herian wrote:
Botiz630 wrote:Gibronis.


I always thought it was spelled Jabroni.

Gibronis are people who live on the strait of Gibraltor, between Spain and North Africa.


Titz just hates all mediterranean cultures that aren't Italian.



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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby dakotashooter2 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:36 am

A few minutes one way or the other really isn't an issue. Not everybodys clocks are set for the exact time. But oftentime 20 minutes early means you have no clue what you are shooting at other than a shadow in the sky. These are the guys that are going to lose a higher percentage of birds and likely shoot over their limit of hens, and leave them laying in a pile.... THAT is what bothers and affects us .............
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby SPatrick » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:06 am

I am not calling someone in for a couple minutes, but its complete bull$hit when it happens, all shooting early does is screw over everyone else. Also when I get checked, I always snag a card from one of the agents and keep it on me. One of the guys in my area I speak with on a regular basis, and would not hesitate in the least to call him for things. All it does is help clean up the sport.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Bigpuddin43 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:15 am

So how do new guys get started in the right direction. I have been hunting for a couple years and started hunting with some buddies that had been doing it for a few years before that so I know the ethics of what y'all are talking about. Took my brother hunting last year when he was down and he fell in love with duck hunting. Problem is he lives in Wisconsin 8 hours away from me or anyone else he knows that duck hunts. He has a few private spots but mostly is hunting public ground. He knows the ethics but has yet to kill a duck this year. He spends considerable more time scouting than hunting and sees ducks almost everytime out but just can't seam to figure it out and be at the right spot. Now if he posts up on a place like this asking for help within the first few posts I can guarantee you will get a cyberscouter reply and people will be digging him about trying to get someone's spot when he really just needs someone to show him the ropes. I'm headed up there next weekend to see if I can help him out any but in two days doubt I will be able to tell him much about anything going on in the area. But we will hopefully get some enjoyable hunts in and some quality time in the field.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby DuckManClyde » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:27 am

Bigpuddin43 wrote:So how do new guys get started in the right direction. I have been hunting for a couple years and started hunting with some buddies that had been doing it for a few years before that so I know the ethics of what y'all are talking about. Took my brother hunting last year when he was down and he fell in love with duck hunting. Problem is he lives in Wisconsin 8 hours away from me or anyone else he knows that duck hunts. He has a few private spots but mostly is hunting public ground. He knows the ethics but has yet to kill a duck this year. He spends considerable more time scouting than hunting and sees ducks almost everytime out but just can't seam to figure it out and be at the right spot. Now if he posts up on a place like this asking for help within the first few posts I can guarantee you will get a cyberscouter reply and people will be digging him about trying to get someone's spot when he really just needs someone to show him the ropes. I'm headed up there next weekend to see if I can help him out any but in two days doubt I will be able to tell him much about anything going on in the area. But we will hopefully get some enjoyable hunts in and some quality time in the field.


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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby T Man » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:37 am

I've never understood the condemnation of sky busters but the constant need for tighter and tighter chokes.

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby imboray » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:02 pm

I have the luxury of not having to hunt WMA's, even though I only live 7 miles north of one of the biggest public hunting areas in IL, we hunt on a city lake with a permanent blind that we sign up every year, so I really don't have to deal with the issue, though I have in the past. I don't begrudge any young guy whose out there, regardless of how they hunt, it is public hunting. As much as we'd like to think different, we don't have our spot in a public area. Unfortunately I think one should expect that sort of thing when hunting public land. So many times its young hunters just getting involved that don't have what it takes to finish ducks. It is the old difference between "hunting to kill" vs. "killing to hunt." Most youths do the latter, hopefully as they age their philosophy changes. The thing I can't get my head around is how its any fun to skybust and take those ridiculous shots. For me all the fun is passing up a 30 yd shot because you know you have them on a string & can put them in your dekes at 20 yds. I don't think I would duck hunt if I had to shoot passing shots at 40 yds, or further, to kill ducks, I just don't see any enjoyment in it. We have a blind across the lake from us that shoots shots all the time that we would never take. They knock some down at long distances & retireive them, but I just shake my head because, again, I don't see the joy or skill involved.
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