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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Stish85 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:39 am

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby possumfoot » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:47 am

kbooger wrote:
:-) wrote:The new norm is to blame everyone else because you can't kill a duck.

I get a kick out of hunters that blame everyone but themselves for a bad hunt...you show me a someone that can tell how far I'm shooting from 300-400 yards away, and I'll stop hunting.


Ruining it for everyone on the lake, not just my hunt. And I can tell pretty well from 300-400 yards away when geese are sky high.

You can stop hunting now :)



lol.. lots of folks say that.. almost no one is correct..

had a group last year that swore we were shooting ducks at 80 yards.. i wont call a shot outside 40.. the day in question, most of our shooting was at about 30.. and these were all "experienced" hunters.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby boney fingers » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:50 am

How long has the term "sky buster" been around?
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby greenster » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:10 pm

Going back to the Arkansas 15 shell limit. This is on Green tree WMA's, where generally 25yds Will be the furthest shot..EVER. In addition to 15 shells No shot larger than #2. I have never ran out of shells..EVER. Yes I have came close.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby aunt betty » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:26 pm

greenster wrote:Going back to the Arkansas 15 shell limit. This is on Green tree WMA's, where generally 25yds Will be the furthest shot..EVER. In addition to 15 shells No shot larger than #2. I have never ran out of shells..EVER. Yes I have came close.

The 15-shell limit place I go to has a 3 mallard limit with a 4-duck limit period. Not all the WMA's have these special site rules but generally in timber you get great shots or no shots... 15 is plenty 99% of the time.


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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby t_baker » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:37 pm

wanapasaki wrote:
t_baker wrote:I took a guy hunting 3 years ago. To this day he thinks he is a master duck hunter. His call sounds like a kazoo. He cant shoot. Cant set decoys, all around idiot. His ethics caused me to not take him hunting again. He asked me if he could use my blind couple weeks ago and i told him no. I didn't want people thinking it was me in the blind shooting grebes and calling like a moron.

Moral of the story, peoples ethics are gone and most people are idiots.

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Obviously he learned from you, like you stated nimrod

I took him once. We shot 4 times and killed 3 wood ducks. In a hole with basically only wood ducks. I dont even remember blowing a call.

Try again San Fran. Don't you and your boy friend have a date planned today?

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby DuckManClyde » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:38 pm

Im getting my skybusting under control, done it twice this season. Iv'e even marked out 40 yards when i was patterning my gun and HOLY God, is that a shot for me. we worked 2 mallards across a lake once, I could swear that they were within 40, and still refused to take the shot cause it looked so far. I might as well be shooting a 20 ga. for the type of shots im comfortable taking.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby OGblackcloud » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:39 pm

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby bighop » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:09 pm

greenster wrote:Going back to the Arkansas 15 shell limit. This is on Green tree WMA's, where generally 25yds Will be the furthest shot..EVER. In addition to 15 shells No shot larger than #2. I have never ran out of shells..EVER. Yes I have came close.

I think I'd be a waterswatter only with a 15 shell limit.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby TXducksanddeer » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:23 pm

Why don't you guys lend a hand out instead of complaining on the internet. Half these guys have no idea what the heck there doing. If they don't want your help and say it in a smarty manner, feel free to go crazy a$$hole on them.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Broken Paddle » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:01 pm

boney fingers wrote:How long has the term "sky buster" been around?


Most likely from the beginning of time. The ones that "sky busted" did not survive!
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Stish85 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:14 pm

TXducksanddeer wrote:Why don't you guys lend a hand out instead of complaining on the internet. Half these guys have no idea what the heck there doing. If they don't want your help and say it in a smarty manner, feel free to go crazy a$$hole on them.


When ducks clearly turn to work another spread or atleast leave the current spread and all the sudden get shot at its a pretty fair bet how you will be greeted.

I once arrived 1.5 hours before legal shooting hours. I set my decoys up 1 hour prior. At 20 minutes prior I had sine guys walk out and set up 70 yards from me. Needless to say I was pissed. Around 930 the group approached my group abd proceeded to yell at us for taking their spot and demand we give them the ducks we shot because they were "their"ducks. This is the type of hunter we are dealing with on a frequent basis.

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby xtrema13 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:02 pm

Had a guy set up 100 yards in front of me today. As soon as he came into the field, with us set up already. He came and complained to us before he went and set up. Without a layout or anything.


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Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Frylock » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:38 pm

Stish85 wrote:
TXducksanddeer wrote:Why don't you guys lend a hand out instead of complaining on the internet. Half these guys have no idea what the heck there doing. If they don't want your help and say it in a smarty manner, feel free to go crazy a$$hole on them.


When ducks clearly turn to work another spread or atleast leave the current spread and all the sudden get shot at its a pretty fair bet how you will be greeted.

I once arrived 1.5 hours before legal shooting hours. I set my decoys up 1 hour prior. At 20 minutes prior I had sine guys walk out and set up 70 yards from me. Needless to say I was pissed. Around 930 the group approached my group abd proceeded to yell at us for taking their spot and demand we give them the ducks we shot because they were "their"ducks. This is the type of hunter we are dealing with on a frequent basis.

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Wow! Those guys had some balls trying to demand your birds!
On the occasions I've had guys set up too close I'll try and talk respectfully with them, I find most folks are very accommodating and it seems are willing to work together so everyone has a good hunt. But not always....

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby sampsonhuntin » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:54 pm

One guys skybusting, is another guys pass shooting.

My buddy told a guy last year that setup 50 yards beside him that he has a short memory, and might forget he is over there if a duck comes by. Also said, his face paint was a bad idea because the company recalled the new tubes due to the fact that people were complaining about painful hives and rashes. :lol3:
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby :-) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:14 pm

Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:The new norm is to blame everyone else because you can't kill a duck.

I get a kick out of hunters that blame everyone but themselves for a bad hunt...you show me a someone that can tell how far I'm shooting from 300-400 yards away, and I'll stop hunting.




I can see by your answer you are the new norm we are talking about, since you are the only response out of over 30 that blames it on others not being able to kill ducks. I kill 50+ ducks a year even with sky blasting, game leaving idiots that setup less than 100 yards from my spread

Idiots shooting at everything that attempts comes near someone else's is the problem.

It's not that hard to tell when birds are sky high. Might not be able to tell horizontal distance, but vertical distance is pretty easy. And odds if you are 300 to 400 yards away, you are not the guy I'm worried about. Sky blast away those birds will be liking for a safe place to land by time they get to me.

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Dang! You figured me out I guess. I'm the bad guy that haunts you in your dreams at night, and keeps ducks out of your decoys!

Like I said before it's your own fault...don't hunt where the idiots are. If you know where the idiots are hunting why would you want to be there? What does that make you? I assure you there's a sweet little hole somewhere near where you hunt that the idiots haven't found...you just have to be smarter, and work harder.

Also, don't brag about how many ducks you kill a year...you will show your lack of experience, and end up getting your feelings hurt. Not that that's a bad number...it just means you have limited time to hunt, and that equals lack of experience. I've hunted 6 of the 9 days season has been opened, and that's rare...usually I'd be 9 for 9.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby rank duck » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:24 pm

I fart a lot in the field, so if anyone sets up within 50 yds of me they don't stay very long.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby toolmaker » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:33 pm

when i was a kid I had a crossman pump air rifle and I remember all the BB's were golden!!!

none that i ever had ever killed a duck at 80 yards!!

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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Stish85 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:45 pm

:-) wrote:
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:-) wrote:The new norm is to blame everyone else because you can't kill a duck.

I get a kick out of hunters that blame everyone but themselves for a bad hunt...you show me a someone that can tell how far I'm shooting from 300-400 yards away, and I'll stop hunting.




I can see by your answer you are the new norm we are talking about, since you are the only response out of over 30 that blames it on others not being able to kill ducks. I kill 50+ ducks a year even with sky blasting, game leaving idiots that setup less than 100 yards from my spread

Idiots shooting at everything that attempts comes near someone else's is the problem.

It's not that hard to tell when birds are sky high. Might not be able to tell horizontal distance, but vertical distance is pretty easy. And odds if you are 300 to 400 yards away, you are not the guy I'm worried about. Sky blast away those birds will be liking for a safe place to land by time they get to me.

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Dang! You figured me out I guess. I'm the bad guy that haunts you in your dreams at night, and keeps ducks out of your decoys!

Like I said before it's your own fault...don't hunt where the idiots are. If you know where the idiots are hunting why would you want to be there? What does that make you? I assure you there's a sweet little hole somewhere near where you hunt that the idiots haven't found...you just have to be smarter, and work harder.

Also, don't brag about how many ducks you kill a year...you will show your lack of experience, and end up getting your feelings hurt. Not that that's a bad number...it just means you have limited time to hunt, and that equals lack of experience. I've hunted 6 of the 9 days season has been opened, and that's rare...usually I'd be 9 for 9.


For one I wasn't bragging, merely stating I have no problem killing ducks. Second, the number of days one hunts has no bearing on their knowledge. I guarantee you there are guys that hunt twice as much as I(or any one else that has limited time hunting) do and know half as much. It's all a matter of how you use your time and how observant you are that makes you more "experienced". For you to assume that you know more and are a better duck hunter than someone else just because you hunt more is foolish. That would be like saying you are better than someone at football because you have been playing longer, when in fact they are just more talented.

Kinda hard to find a little hole on lake Michigan. And why would I let the idiots force me out? I've been hunting the area for 15 years and know it inside and out. It doesn't matter where you go, unless you can afford thousands to hunt a club out private land all out takes is one day of good shooting and the next time you go out it it's crawling with guys.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby :-) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:20 pm

Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:
Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:The new norm is to blame everyone else because you can't kill a duck.

I get a kick out of hunters that blame everyone but themselves for a bad hunt...you show me a someone that can tell how far I'm shooting from 300-400 yards away, and I'll stop hunting.




I can see by your answer you are the new norm we are talking about, since you are the only response out of over 30 that blames it on others not being able to kill ducks. I kill 50+ ducks a year even with sky blasting, game leaving idiots that setup less than 100 yards from my spread

Idiots shooting at everything that attempts comes near someone else's is the problem.

It's not that hard to tell when birds are sky high. Might not be able to tell horizontal distance, but vertical distance is pretty easy. And odds if you are 300 to 400 yards away, you are not the guy I'm worried about. Sky blast away those birds will be liking for a safe place to land by time they get to me.

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Dang! You figured me out I guess. I'm the bad guy that haunts you in your dreams at night, and keeps ducks out of your decoys!

Like I said before it's your own fault...don't hunt where the idiots are. If you know where the idiots are hunting why would you want to be there? What does that make you? I assure you there's a sweet little hole somewhere near where you hunt that the idiots haven't found...you just have to be smarter, and work harder.

Also, don't brag about how many ducks you kill a year...you will show your lack of experience, and end up getting your feelings hurt. Not that that's a bad number...it just means you have limited time to hunt, and that equals lack of experience. I've hunted 6 of the 9 days season has been opened, and that's rare...usually I'd be 9 for 9.


For one I wasn't bragging, merely stating I have no problem killing ducks. Second, the number of days one hunts has no bearing on their knowledge. I guarantee you there are guys that hunt twice as much as I(or any one else that has limited time hunting) do and know half as much. It's all a matter of how you use your time and how observant you are that makes you more "experienced". For you to assume that you know more and are a better duck hunter than someone else just because you hunt more is foolish. That would be like saying you are better than someone at football because you have been playing longer, when in fact they are just more talented.

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You have a valid point...I guess. It would be good to know where experience can be learned other than in the field. You could become more popular than Uncle Si if you published that information.

Anyone can get lucky a few times a year, but to walk away with limits on a regular basis takes experience. Do I think I'm a better hunter than you? I'm not going to be a jerk, and say yes. What I will say is I put in a lot if time, and it works out really good for me and the people that hunt with me.

Also, are you telling me that a football player that has talent, but only plays 1/3 of the season has a chance to get drafted into the NFL?
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby Stish85 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:35 pm

:-) wrote:
Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:
Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:The new norm is to blame everyone else because you can't kill a duck.

I get a kick out of hunters that blame everyone but themselves for a bad hunt...you show me a someone that can tell how far I'm shooting from 300-400 yards away, and I'll stop hunting.




I can see by your answer you are the new norm we are talking about, since you are the only response out of over 30 that blames it on others not being able to kill ducks. I kill 50+ ducks a year even with sky blasting, game leaving idiots that setup less than 100 yards from my spread

Idiots shooting at everything that attempts comes near someone else's is the problem.

It's not that hard to tell when birds are sky high. Might not be able to tell horizontal distance, but vertical distance is pretty easy. And odds if you are 300 to 400 yards away, you are not the guy I'm worried about. Sky blast away those birds will be liking for a safe place to land by time they get to me.

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Dang! You figured me out I guess. I'm the bad guy that haunts you in your dreams at night, and keeps ducks out of your decoys!

Like I said before it's your own fault...don't hunt where the idiots are. If you know where the idiots are hunting why would you want to be there? What does that make you? I assure you there's a sweet little hole somewhere near where you hunt that the idiots haven't found...you just have to be smarter, and work harder.

Also, don't brag about how many ducks you kill a year...you will show your lack of experience, and end up getting your feelings hurt. Not that that's a bad number...it just means you have limited time to hunt, and that equals lack of experience. I've hunted 6 of the 9 days season has been opened, and that's rare...usually I'd be 9 for 9.


For one I wasn't bragging, merely stating I have no problem killing ducks. Second, the number of days one hunts has no bearing on their knowledge. I guarantee you there are guys that hunt twice as much as I(or any one else that has limited time hunting) do and know half as much. It's all a matter of how you use your time and how observant you are that makes you more "experienced". For you to assume that you know more and are a better duck hunter than someone else just because you hunt more is foolish. That would be like saying you are better than someone at football because you have been playing longer, when in fact they are just more talented.

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You have a valid point...I guess. It would be good to know where experience can be learned other than in the field. You could become more popular than Uncle Si if you published that information.

Anyone can get lucky a few times a year, but to walk away with limits on a regular basis takes experience. Do I think I'm a better hunter than you? I'm not going to be a jerk, and say yes. What I will say is I put in a lot if time, and it works out really good for me and the people that hunt with me.

Also, are you telling me that a football player that has talent, but only plays 1/3 of the season has a chance to get drafted into the NFL?



In short yes a player that has played 1/3 of the year has been drafted into the NFL, if you want names Im sure I can look some up for you. There are plenty of players that have been drafted after being hurt half of their senior year. Don't most starters get there jobs back after going on IR for a year? Although some times someone younger and more talented comes along and takes the job, just look at Tom Brady. He went in the game for a injured Drew Bledsoe and has started ever since, not because he was more experienced though.

I agree that knowledge is gained by being in the field. But, just because someone is in the field everyday does not in anyway mean that they are learning anything. Some people are just not observant and do not pay attention to the little inticacies that can be learned by watching a flock work a spread or just watching them in general. Also hunting is not the only time one can learn about waterfowl and there behaviors. Just because a guy gets out 50 days a seaon does not mean that he has spent as much time in the field. Limits of ducks also does not measure this, some hunters choose to not shoot a limit every time they go out. I too put a lot of time in the field now I may not put as much time in hunting as the next guy. However, I don't know too many people that go out in the off season just to watch ducks and geese. Anywhere from parks and golf courses to marshes and wildlife refuges, there is always something to be learned by watching. One does not need to have a call in hand or decoys on the water to be a better hunter come season.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby DuckManClyde » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:09 pm

Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:
Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:
Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:The new norm is to blame everyone else because you can't kill a duck.

I get a kick out of hunters that blame everyone but themselves for a bad hunt...you show me a someone that can tell how far I'm shooting from 300-400 yards away, and I'll stop hunting.




I can see by your answer you are the new norm we are talking about, since you are the only response out of over 30 that blames it on others not being able to kill ducks. I kill 50+ ducks a year even with sky blasting, game leaving idiots that setup less than 100 yards from my spread

Idiots shooting at everything that attempts comes near someone else's is the problem.

It's not that hard to tell when birds are sky high. Might not be able to tell horizontal distance, but vertical distance is pretty easy. And odds if you are 300 to 400 yards away, you are not the guy I'm worried about. Sky blast away those birds will be liking for a safe place to land by time they get to me.

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Dang! You figured me out I guess. I'm the bad guy that haunts you in your dreams at night, and keeps ducks out of your decoys!

Like I said before it's your own fault...don't hunt where the idiots are. If you know where the idiots are hunting why would you want to be there? What does that make you? I assure you there's a sweet little hole somewhere near where you hunt that the idiots haven't found...you just have to be smarter, and work harder.

Also, don't brag about how many ducks you kill a year...you will show your lack of experience, and end up getting your feelings hurt. Not that that's a bad number...it just means you have limited time to hunt, and that equals lack of experience. I've hunted 6 of the 9 days season has been opened, and that's rare...usually I'd be 9 for 9.


For one I wasn't bragging, merely stating I have no problem killing ducks. Second, the number of days one hunts has no bearing on their knowledge. I guarantee you there are guys that hunt twice as much as I(or any one else that has limited time hunting) do and know half as much. It's all a matter of how you use your time and how observant you are that makes you more "experienced". For you to assume that you know more and are a better duck hunter than someone else just because you hunt more is foolish. That would be like saying you are better than someone at football because you have been playing longer, when in fact they are just more talented.

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You have a valid point...I guess. It would be good to know where experience can be learned other than in the field. You could become more popular than Uncle Si if you published that information.

Anyone can get lucky a few times a year, but to walk away with limits on a regular basis takes experience. Do I think I'm a better hunter than you? I'm not going to be a jerk, and say yes. What I will say is I put in a lot if time, and it works out really good for me and the people that hunt with me.

Also, are you telling me that a football player that has talent, but only plays 1/3 of the season has a chance to get drafted into the NFL?



In short yes a player that has played 1/3 of the year has been drafted into the NFL, if you want names Im sure I can look some up for you. There are plenty of players that have been drafted after being hurt half of their senior year. Don't most starters get there jobs back after going on IR for a year? Although some times someone younger and more talented comes along and takes the job, just look at Tom Brady. He went in the game for a injured Drew Bledsoe and has started ever since, not because he was more experienced though.

I agree that knowledge is gained by being in the field. But, just because someone is in the field everyday does not in anyway mean that they are learning anything. Some people are just not observant and do not pay attention to the little inticacies that can be learned by watching a flock work a spread or just watching them in general. Also hunting is not the only time one can learn about waterfowl and there behaviors. Just because a guy gets out 50 days a seaon does not mean that he has spent as much time in the field. Limits of ducks also does not measure this, some hunters choose to not shoot a limit every time they go out. I too put a lot of time in the field now I may not put as much time in hunting as the next guy. However, I don't know too many people that go out in the off season just to watch ducks and geese. Anywhere from parks and golf courses to marshes and wildlife refuges, there is always something to be learned by watching. One does not need to have a call in hand or decoys on the water to be a better hunter come season.


I can vouch for that! I've taken my call out during the early spring when everything's breeding. I love watching ducks and geese on the off season, good pastime after the homework is done.


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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby macdaddy » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:35 pm

:-) wrote:
Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:
Stish85 wrote:
:-) wrote:The new norm is to blame everyone else because you can't kill a duck.

I get a kick out of hunters that blame everyone but themselves for a bad hunt...you show me a someone that can tell how far I'm shooting from 300-400 yards away, and I'll stop hunting.




I can see by your answer you are the new norm we are talking about, since you are the only response out of over 30 that blames it on others not being able to kill ducks. I kill 50+ ducks a year even with sky blasting, game leaving idiots that setup less than 100 yards from my spread

Idiots shooting at everything that attempts comes near someone else's is the problem.

It's not that hard to tell when birds are sky high. Might not be able to tell horizontal distance, but vertical distance is pretty easy. And odds if you are 300 to 400 yards away, you are not the guy I'm worried about. Sky blast away those birds will be liking for a safe place to land by time they get to me.

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Dang! You figured me out I guess. I'm the bad guy that haunts you in your dreams at night, and keeps ducks out of your decoys!

Like I said before it's your own fault...don't hunt where the idiots are. If you know where the idiots are hunting why would you want to be there? What does that make you? I assure you there's a sweet little hole somewhere near where you hunt that the idiots haven't found...you just have to be smarter, and work harder.

Also, don't brag about how many ducks you kill a year...you will show your lack of experience, and end up getting your feelings hurt. Not that that's a bad number...it just means you have limited time to hunt, and that equals lack of experience. I've hunted 6 of the 9 days season has been opened, and that's rare...usually I'd be 9 for 9.


For one I wasn't bragging, merely stating I have no problem killing ducks. Second, the number of days one hunts has no bearing on their knowledge. I guarantee you there are guys that hunt twice as much as I(or any one else that has limited time hunting) do and know half as much. It's all a matter of how you use your time and how observant you are that makes you more "experienced". For you to assume that you know more and are a better duck hunter than someone else just because you hunt more is foolish. That would be like saying you are better than someone at football because you have been playing longer, when in fact they are just more talented.

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You have a valid point...I guess. It would be good to know where experience can be learned other than in the field. You could become more popular than Uncle Si if you published that information.

Anyone can get lucky a few times a year, but to walk away with limits on a regular basis takes experience. Do I think I'm a better hunter than you? I'm not going to be a jerk, and say yes. What I will say is I put in a lot if time, and it works out really good for me and the people that hunt with me.

Also, are you telling me that a football player that has talent, but only plays 1/3 of the season has a chance to get drafted into the NFL?


Time. So long as it is time well spent.
Whether teaching in the classroom, or hunting in field or water, I've seen those who waste time. They make the same mistakes repeatedly. What they do is simply go through the motions, believing that that will bring them results; but results evade them.

:-) apparently you are one who does not simply go through the motions. You are not the kid who wastes time writing on and on, wasting time, going through the motions, not learning a thing; and wondering why his grades are low. Or the the guy who leaves the goose field early in a teal coloured rain jacket, never carrying a goose or duck. Another one going through the motions (probably too many motions) standing out like a sore thumb, driving away and flairing geese who would otherwise come in. Why was he there? Just to escape his wife; just to be "out there?" No matter his motivation - he was not seriously hunting.

We spend the time, learn the ropes mostly by watching and listening - watching bird behaviour, listening to their "talk," and taking from that what we need for the field and water. We also keep our camouflage dirty, to better hide from the birds. We do not wear teal coloured jackets.

Learning. Always, ever learning. Such is life. Rejoice. And pray that your brain stays healthy. :hammer:
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby kbooger » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:41 pm

possumfoot wrote:
kbooger wrote:
:-) wrote:The new norm is to blame everyone else because you can't kill a duck.

I get a kick out of hunters that blame everyone but themselves for a bad hunt...you show me a someone that can tell how far I'm shooting from 300-400 yards away, and I'll stop hunting.


Ruining it for everyone on the lake, not just my hunt. And I can tell pretty well from 300-400 yards away when geese are sky high.

You can stop hunting now :)



lol.. lots of folks say that.. almost no one is correct..

had a group last year that swore we were shooting ducks at 80 yards.. i wont call a shot outside 40.. the day in question, most of our shooting was at about 30.. and these were all "experienced" hunters.


If these groups had been dropping birds I would have blamed my vision. When I hear a volley of 9 shots and see the one duck they shot at leave unscathed and outside the edge of the groups decoys by about 20 yards, yeah it is safe to assume they "skybusted". Hey I've done it myself, I just try not to do it consistently.
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Re: Sky busting and poor ethics the new norm?

Postby rank duck » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:49 pm

toolmaker wrote:when i was a kid I had a crossman pump air rifle and I remember all the BB's were golden!!!

none that i ever had ever killed a duck at 80 yards!!

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