inthebox30lbs wrote:Like I said before I went through the same process u are going thru. It's not your reloading practices the wads have changed. There is no way 383gr. Fit in the wad no matter what hull, wad pressure etc. I'm plum out of the old wads for the newer wads I can get them to load with around 360 grains of steel 4 shot and smaller. Bigger shot makes the problem even worse. With the old wads I easily could fit 383gr of single b. I have reloaded enough shells to no adjusting the press is not going to solve your problem. Buy the one ounce wads and add filler and you will be good to go I could tell no difference in patterns. Hope this helps.
Paulinkansas wrote:2 years ago I bought a reloader and the Lightning Steel v2 manual and the 7/8 and 1 ounce wads that go with them. I had no problems following the recipes in the manual and making some good shells. I used up all the original 7/8 ounce wads last year.
Last week I ordered more of the 7/8 ounce wads. I've had problems with these newly purchased wads. The B&P TUWSBL24. At first I could not keep the shells from buckling or bulging, but fixed that. Then I couldn't get a crimp, fixed that. Now the crimps come undone.
Out of curiosity and from another post on here, I measured the 7/8 wad and compared it to the only thing I had, the same wad by B&P but for the 1 ounce load.
The petals of the 1 ounce load are straight walled. They are .030" the whole depth of the shotcup.
The petals of the 7/8 ounce load are tapered. They are .030" at the top of the cup, and .090" at the bottom of the petals.
Next, I measured out 1 ounce and 7/8 ounce of #4 shot and put them in the wads. The picture pretty much explains what might be causing my problems.
In the 1 ounce load, the pellets come even to the top of the wad.
In the 7/8 ounce load, the pellets come over the top of the wad. there is 2-3 layers of pellets over the top.
In the picture, the two unfired hulls have the top of the wad placed next to the top of the hull. Basically just to hold it in place. There is no powder and the wads haven't been seated.
Both wads are of the same overall length, but the 7/8 ounce wad overflows when it's loaded with 7/8 ounce of shot. That would imply more volume with the 7/8 ounce load, which could cause my problems with crimps coming undone.
Does anyone have some older 7/8 ounce B&P wads of this type? If so, could you measure out 7/8 oz of shot and put it in the cup and let me know if it overflows or is even with the top of the wad. Also, another person mentioned that the newer wads were thicker. Could you see if your petals are tapered? A quick visual of a petal pulled out will tell you.
Does it seem reasonable that I should have trouble loading these wads satisfactorily?
John Singer wrote:I now have to admit after seeing these posts. I have loaded several of the 1-oz Lightning Steel loads. I have always used the 1 1/8 oz wad with no filler.
If I load a 7/8 oz load, I use the same wad and use oatmeal as a filler.
Baher20018 wrote:Thanks for this thread I had the same problem today. Don't know what to do with 250 7/8 B and P wads now....
Paulinkansas wrote:Baher20018 wrote:Thanks for this thread I had the same problem today. Don't know what to do with 250 7/8 B and P wads now....
I don't know what to do with 1000 of the same wads. What if we both called precision reloading and complained?