Labs wrote:If color is what you are set on, make sure you do your homework and ensure they breeder wasn't just breeding for color....make sure they have a long line of hunting/hunt testing/field trials in the pedigree. Many times, breeders sacrifice the litter to simply get the color they want and don't make breeding decisions based on what is best for the breed. I think there is a guy with the last name of Westphal that is here in MN that breeds the dark yellows. Pretty sure there was a post in the dog forum or on RTF looking for this person, but I have not looked into his breeding program...
If you are looking for a proven gun dog, I would NOT use either of the two mentioned above....No pedigrees on either site that I could find, and neither have dogs that are in the hunt test/field trial game.
Thanks for the info. My brother has a dog from Westphal. I think that post was from me, but we weren't ready to pull the trigger at the time. She is gorgeous and has been a good bird dog.
We are looking at a breeder that works with him, Smitty's, among others. I'm a bit of a nerd when it comes to researching these types of things so I'm interested in any info I can get. Unfortunately I started late considering a lot of folks have fresh pups or are expecting them soon.