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Flooding cost

Postby kckong » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:25 pm

I am considering flooding 50 acres of corn but I have no idea what the cost of pumping that much water would cost. I assume it depends on what kind of pump you have but on average how much would it cost in fuel to flood around 50 acres? There is a decent size creek/river that boarders the property that I could pump from. I also could pump/siphon from a well that is on a hill about 100 yards away.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby ArkansasRobertson » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:29 pm

kckong wrote:I am considering flooding 50 acres of corn but I have no idea what the cost of pumping that much water would cost. I assume it depends on what kind of pump you have but on average how much would it cost in fuel to flood around 50 acres? There is a decent size creek/river that boarders the property that I could pump from. I also could pump/siphon from a well that is on a hill about 100 yards away.


Pump size is huge deal. Gotta have big enough pump to account for elevation head. Diesel Cost Range from 1000-3000 dollars!

Thats completely rough estimate.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby ByersFarm » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:38 pm

There are so many variables. Amount of fall in the field, depth of water table, fuel costs in your area, and soil type are some that come to mind. We could flood 50 acres for less than $1000.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby kckong » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:44 pm

depending on the water level of the river I would be pumping about 10-15ft to crest the bank and levee.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby ByersFarm » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:54 pm

Relifting is a much cheaper alternative to well water.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby possumfoot » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:54 pm

depends on how deep ya want to flood too..


byers, could you explain relift?? do you just use retention ponds, or is there some method i am totally unaware of??
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby ByersFarm » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:17 pm

A relift picks up surface water. Ie runoff that has been captured in a tailwater recovery system.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby Humpbackshooter » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:35 pm

Cason, your fields are razor-level too? That helps alot also.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby ByersFarm » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:41 pm

No. We don't have any that are zero grade. We have moved dirt in a couple, but not to the extent that you're talking.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby possumfoot » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:44 pm

think i got ya.. same idea as using a camel back pump?? only i am guessing yours are diesel
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby ByersFarm » Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:04 pm

possumfoot wrote:think i got ya.. same idea as using a camel back pump?? only i am guessing yours are diesel

Camel backs are just pto driven relifts. We have one, but I hate the thing.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby Broken Paddle » Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:17 pm

Keep in mind, a pump pushes water more effectively than it will draw water.

Keep your pump as close to the water source as possible.

Depending on what you have for static head, you may have to put in a relay pump to maintain the GPM. of your primary pump.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby LongTom » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:57 pm

If you ever decide to pump water on a large scale you need to size you pump and power for the specific job.
The performance curve of a pump is usually a fairly small range to achieve the best pump rate and cheapest energy cost.
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby ArkansasRobertson » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:41 pm

Broken Paddle wrote:Keep in mind, a pump pushes water more effectively than it will draw water.

Keep your pump as close to the water source as possible.

Depending on what you have for static head, you may have to put in a relay pump to maintain the GPM. of your primary pump.

32.2 ft above water is max for suction (anything above is impossible because of gravity)... mgh little physics 101 haha
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Re: Flooding cost

Postby Broken Paddle » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:17 pm

ArkansasRobertson wrote:
Broken Paddle wrote:Keep in mind, a pump pushes water more effectively than it will draw water.

Keep your pump as close to the water source as possible.

Depending on what you have for static head, you may have to put in a relay pump to maintain the GPM. of your primary pump.

32.2 ft above water is max for suction (anything above is impossible because of gravity)... mgh little physics 101 haha


This is true, we would test our pumpers, to see that they would draw water @ 28'. The higher you draw, the less GPM you get at the nozzle even less when you figure in friction loss of your supply line. I have forgotten a lot since I took hydraulics & rural water supply courses 30-40 yrs. ago in fire school, it has been 15 or so yrs. since I have used it, but, if I need to dig through the archives, I can make it work, in a hands on situation.

And yes, gravity is NOT always your friend, on VERY rare occasions, it can be your enemy!

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