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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby getemducks » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:24 pm

If you are hunting a pressured area even late into the season, A lot of the time if you kick them up without shooting they will come back, especially if there is 50 or more birds. I absolutely love jump shooting nothing wrong with it, just do yourself a favor and don't shoot them off the roost before dark :thumbsup:
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Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby SDduckhunter23 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:42 pm

I think that there is a difference between someone who drives along until he sees birds along the side of a road and jumps out and shoots them and someone who scouts and locates birds then makes a half hour mile sneak on them to jump shoot them, more like stalk and spot. I am in favor of the second option more than the first but I would still pick decoying over anything!!! It is quite a challenge though to make a long and undetected sneak on late season fowl though!


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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby hurtin_honkers » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:07 am

The way I look at it, is there are a few types of duck hunters, there's the yuppie, who hunts opening day, but doesnt take it too seriously. There's the die hards who spend every waking moment on the water, not just for the kill but for the experience, who look at it as a passion, and not just a hobby. and then theres the "hunters" who go out and strictly jump shoot, or paddle around, dont bother having decoys, or calls, or any duck gear whatsoever really. And I know this for a fact because one of my good buddies is that guy, and he gets more excitement out of a few dead birds than the experience of a life time. And I hate hunting with him because he doesnt want to duck hunt, he wants to duck kill, telling me that all this gear isnt necessary, you dont need all these calls, or decoys, and what irritates me the most is at the end of the season, we have both killed about the exact same number and I know for dang sure I worked a lot harder for mine than he did. Which he's lucky because he owns a decent sized bog behind his house that is about the size of 4 foot ball fields that ducks seem to just pour to. and he can sit there on the bank and shoot a limit or walk around and shoot a limit without even breaking a sweat. If you're the occasional jump shooter where you try it every once in a while, believe be I am all for it, but dont be that guy who just drives around with a shotgun and kills ducks because its fun.
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Slack Tide » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:16 am

SDduckhunter23 wrote:I think that there is a difference between someone who drives along until he sees birds along the side of a road and jumps out and shoots them


I remember reading a thread in the Taxi forum and that's exactly what they do in other countries. I think it was Peru.....up in the mountains

I'm with you on decoying birds though
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Slack Tide » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:22 am

To be fair though....how is jump shooting ducks really that different than hunting pheasant? We have giant marshes with mosquito ditches that are cut into them in a grid...it is common that ducks sit in them to feed and get out of the wind...my entire childhood we walked those meadows for black duck etc...
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Frank Lopez » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:52 pm

Slack Tide wrote:To be fair though....how is jump shooting ducks really that different than hunting pheasant? We have giant marshes with mosquito ditches that are cut into them in a grid...it is common that ducks sit in them to feed and get out of the wind...my entire childhood we walked those meadows for black duck etc...


It's VERY different, Slack. I spend almost every Saturday, Sunday and holiday in November and December chasing pheasants on the co op. We use pointing breeds and there is quite a bit of walking involved. Sometimes, everything is perfect. The dog casts and locks into a solid point. You and your partners converge on the dog, walk past a few steps and...nothing! Have the dog relocate, and she locks up again. Move in again, and again nothing. Relocate again, and this time you hear a whir of wings or a cackle about 75 yards off through the trees. Sometimes, your whole morning is like that. Sometimes, the birds hold well, especially when the cover's pretty tight. It isn't like a marsh where you can see 200 yards or more. Sometimes, you can't see your partner working ten yards to your side. You really need to be able to keep in touch, for safety's sake. Sometimes, the cover is so tight, you don't even have a shot at a fleeting bird.

I don't know how the marshes on the south side are anymore, but we still have some of the same drainage and mosquito ditches up here. Been a while since I hunted like that, but like you, I spent a good number of days in my younger years walking the bogs. Trust me, Pheasant hunting is very different.

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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Slack Tide » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:59 pm

Frank Lopez wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:To be fair though....how is jump shooting ducks really that different than hunting pheasant? We have giant marshes with mosquito ditches that are cut into them in a grid...it is common that ducks sit in them to feed and get out of the wind...my entire childhood we walked those meadows for black duck etc...


It's VERY different, Slack.


In the sense that you are stalking up to a resting/hiding bird that you will flush.....it's exactly the same
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Frank Lopez » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:28 pm

Slack Tide wrote:
Frank Lopez wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:To be fair though....how is jump shooting ducks really that different than hunting pheasant? We have giant marshes with mosquito ditches that are cut into them in a grid...it is common that ducks sit in them to feed and get out of the wind...my entire childhood we walked those meadows for black duck etc...


It's VERY different, Slack.


In the sense that you are stalking up to a resting/hiding bird that you will flush.....it's exactly the same


In that sense, it's the same as stalking a bedded deer that will flush. But the devil is in the details.

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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby woodduck31 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:34 am

I prefer to decoy, but as long as guys are hunting legally, I don't have a problem with jump shooting. I'm far more concerned about the boat hunters around here that spend their time scouting so they can hunt the roost, then when things get slow, they hop in the boat to rally the birds to the waiting hunters back at the blind. Rallying birds with boats is very common here on the snake river and is absolutely illegal. Finally this year there is an ongoing investigation of a crew of hunters that blatantly use this hunting tactic on the snake river. There are a lot of things to concern ourselves about that are happening all the time, such as baiting and rallying birds with boats. I'll not worry too much about the guys sneaking up on a pond to shoot a couple of ducks.
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby aunt betty » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:08 pm

We all started out and some started differently from more humble beginnings.
There is nothing wrong with a guy who jump shoots some ducks, takes them home, and eats them.
I hunted with some ppl who had all the gear when I was a boy but wanted to do it on my own which meant I had to jump ducks.
I found ducks while walking ditches for pheasants and rabbits.
Got clever about remembering where I jumped them and would place a pair of decoys there and then return to jump more.
I also got to where I knew every single place in the township that didn't freeze from walking the ice in the ditches.
Little pockets of ducks in the duck dessert I lived in. This kept me interested enough to where I got a retriever and then more decoys and then finally that precious duck boat. Took me twenty years to go from walking ditches to where I had the boat.

AND THEN I FOUND ARKANSAS and we all lived happily ever after. AMEN! :yes:
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby tsamp » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:53 pm

Back when people cared more about feeding themselves and there family it was just another way to add meat to the ice box.
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Reel Teal » Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:38 am

Jump shooting ducks in the wild is hard. It may not be your style, but its legal.

Ive heard people say it isnt right, bc there just sitting there feeding and you shoot them. Ive had people say "how would I feel?" Lol Personally I dont see much of a difference in tricking them to land for breakfast and 3 hunters pop up out of nowhere and feed them steel.

Its all hunting. I would love for more people to give it a try....you know just for perspective. Most people ive talked to that condemn it hunt outside of my state on leases. Duck leases are non existent where Im at and its all public land...and I jump shot my first duck. Is it more fun to shoot them in the air? To me of course. But I never fault some for getting theirs as long as its within the rules/laws.

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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby mudpack » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:36 am

Reel Teal wrote: Duck leases are non existent where Im at and its all public land..

Reel, where do you live that is all public land and no one shoots ducks on private property?? :huh:
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Reel Teal » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:07 am

I should have said pretty much non existent lol just don't go searching for duck leases in florida. Yes people have private land with ducks on it, but no we don't have an abundance of private property that you can lease. And even then not many people can own property on our waterways as its part of Water Management Districts. not comparable to other states at all. I actually love it. I can hunt just about anywhere.

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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Tue May 19, 2015 3:51 am

been awhile since this simmered down/cooled off so I thought I would share my Sunday arvo walk with you lot.
took 14yr old duck hunting virgin out on Saturday and he up and shot first duck (male parrie) first shot overhead,30ish yards down dead using my old astra cyclope .12ga using 7/8th oz reload
Sunday I took him and my son (same age) out to local public area to my favourite jump shooting pozzie
we spotted and stalked first mob but got sprung early and only managed 1 mallard drake....
spotted 2nd mob further along so really go into stalk mode and made plurry sure we has spot sussed out the climbed over the stop bank with a "up and at em boys" attitude
Our son doubled with SxS the novice fired and dropped drake then RELOADED break open single and dropped ANOTHER DRAKE
meanwhile Im shucking the H&R pump and dropped 4 others
8 mallards down within 40 yards of our feet only one hen..my last shot at last available bird...
we retrieved the lot with help from the dogs then sat and plucked the lot for the freezer. finished arvo with 10 fat mallards and 2 tired happy teenagers
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby jeffro9023 » Tue May 19, 2015 2:13 pm

Jump shooting ducks is like jacklighting deer from the truck....but different :huh:
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Slack Tide » Tue May 19, 2015 6:06 pm

jeffro9023 wrote:Jump shooting ducks is like jacklighting deer from the truck....but different :huh:

Jump shooting ducks is no different than pheasant shooting......come on......
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby jeffro9023 » Tue May 19, 2015 8:11 pm

Slack Tide wrote:
jeffro9023 wrote:Jump shooting ducks is like jacklighting deer from the truck....but different :huh:

Jump shooting ducks is no different than pheasant shooting......come on......


Oh, so its like having a couple of DEC pickup trucks with cages full of farm raised birds released on friday so armies of guys with dogs whistles and fancy vests can step on their tails for 5min to get them to fly and take 30 shots to drop a bird that flies at the speed of frozen molasses? GOT IT! :thumbsup: ....Im glad you straightened me out on what duck hunting was all about. Ive been hunting ducks all wrong this whole time. :huh:
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Rick Hall » Wed May 20, 2015 5:08 am

Sounds like a great day with the boys, Elvis. I've found a lot of enjoyment slipping along creeks and backwaters wondering if game would be around the next bend.
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Slack Tide » Wed May 20, 2015 5:15 am

jeffro9023 wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:
jeffro9023 wrote:Jump shooting ducks is like jacklighting deer from the truck....but different :huh:

Jump shooting ducks is no different than pheasant shooting......come on......


Oh, so its like having a couple of DEC pickup trucks with cages full of farm raised birds released on friday so armies of guys with dogs whistles and fancy vests can step on their tails for 5min to get them to fly and take 30 shots to drop a bird that flies at the speed of frozen molasses? GOT IT! :thumbsup: ....Im glad you straightened me out on what duck hunting was all about. Ive been hunting ducks all wrong this whole time. :huh:


Wait a second. I've got a hundred acres of marsh out back with mosquito ditches and small creeks that meander through them. I've walked those marshes and kicked up ducks to jump shoot for years. Am I misreading your post that you think this is an unethical method of duck hunting? Not sporting?
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby jeffro9023 » Wed May 20, 2015 3:30 pm

Slack Tide wrote:
jeffro9023 wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:
jeffro9023 wrote:Jump shooting ducks is like jacklighting deer from the truck....but different :huh:

Jump shooting ducks is no different than pheasant shooting......come on......


Oh, so its like having a couple of DEC pickup trucks with cages full of farm raised birds released on friday so armies of guys with dogs whistles and fancy vests can step on their tails for 5min to get them to fly and take 30 shots to drop a bird that flies at the speed of frozen molasses? GOT IT! :thumbsup: ....Im glad you straightened me out on what duck hunting was all about. Ive been hunting ducks all wrong this whole time. :huh:


Wait a second. I've got a hundred acres of marsh out back with mosquito ditches and small creeks that meander through them. I've walked those marshes and kicked up ducks to jump shoot for years. Am I misreading your post that you think this is an unethical method of duck hunting? Not sporting?



You could say that I have absolutely no desire to hunt farm raised pheasants or ambush a "sitting duck" on a pond yes. Hey, thats kind of ironic that nobody wants to be a " sitting duck" ....Why is that?
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Slack Tide » Wed May 20, 2015 7:06 pm

These are migratory birds that land in marshes that you walk slowly and quietly upon. You play the wind and take your time and stalk. They are not farm raised and they are on public land.....there is nothing unsporting about it, it's actually like sculling....
Do you have a problem with that? You're not shooting them on the water....they fly...
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Bunker » Wed May 20, 2015 7:23 pm

Jump shooting is my version of partridge hunting. Partridge hunting has always been considered sporting, walking old woods roads and flushing birds and shooting them on the wing. Now where I live there is next to no partridge population but a hole bunch of ducks. Nothing beats walking a tidal creek at half tide and flushing ducks just the same way, and just as sporting! You should try it jeffro you never know when they are gonna fly lot more sporting then seeing em' coming across the lake or down the river!


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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby jeffro9023 » Wed May 20, 2015 8:35 pm

Slack Tide wrote:These are migratory birds that land in marshes that you walk slowly and quietly upon. You play the wind and take your time and stalk. They are not farm raised and they are on public land.....there is nothing unsporting about it, it's actually like sculling....
Do you have a problem with that? You're not shooting them on the water....they fly...



I never said I had " a problem" with it ...I said I had no desire to shoot sitting ducks and oh, wait as the suspense of them "flushing" off the water like a darting partridge sends the moment into something to remember lol...I simply enjoy to set up on them with my store bought plastic decoys from a stationary position and see if I can make my set up look good enough to dupe ducks into wanting to be there. Just like I have no desire to drive along a backroad and shoot a deer from my truck window...I mean, besides a gas motor its the same thing as sculling right? Essentially its the same except one is deemed illegal and the other is not. If I kill the motor on the truck and all forward momentum has stopped what is the difference?
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Re: Jump shooting, something doesn't feel right...

Postby Elvis Kiwi » Thu May 21, 2015 1:45 am

when talking to the "newbie duck hunter" I described the way we jump shoot ducks like this
Its like you have opened door to a room and are half way through door and look up to see 15 young ladies fully nudey in front of you ....gasp horror....
we were on public land not 1 mile from wagon/road, any one can shoot there and a heck of a lot of people do. the birds were no more than 100 yards from the open ocean, we caught them with pants down plain and simple. :grooving:
it was "hunting" and "stalking" at its best...and the shooting bit wasnt too shabby either.
how many of you have doubled with a break open gun of late???
how many with a single shot break open?????
our birds were shot legally, all were processed for eating, where is the issue????
one hell of a good way to get younger generation into hunting, a dry fly purist may look down his nose over bi-focal lenses at young fella with a spinning rod drifting a worm to catch a trout but at end of the day its the same game.
let that fisherperson encourage young fella and maybe even help out and tutor and the sport will be strong and safe for years to come. pooh hoo him and put down his methods and the sport may be lesser as they may just chuck it in and go back to XBox or playstation.
thanks Rick it was a great weekend.
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