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Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby 887 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:28 pm

I hunt up and down the Chesapeake bay and feeder rivers. Looking at purchasing a new boat and can't decide on the right set up. I have no experience in either one so give the pros and cons. I'm considering a vented tunnel with a prop on a jack plate or a surface drive mud motor. I want the to run skinny when needed but feel safe coming back across open water with a 1-2 foot chop.

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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby gearhead80 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:46 pm

Well 1-2 foot chop really wouldn't be a big deal with either in the correct boat. What size boat you running or looking to run? Does speed matter? How far are you running? How deep is it? What kind of bottom? How much load?

I'm a personal fan of a tunnel over a SD. Tunnel with the largest outboard on it will suit a lot more situations IMO than a surface drive. I run a tunnel and I will never own an aluminum boat without one. People can't believe the things it'll do and the places it goes.
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby T Man » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:32 pm

gearhead80 wrote:Well 1-2 foot chop really wouldn't be a big deal with either in the correct boat. What size boat you running or looking to run? Does speed matter? How far are you running? How deep is it? What kind of bottom? How much load?

I'm a personal fan of a tunnel over a SD. Tunnel with the largest outboard on it will suit a lot more situations IMO than a surface drive..


Agreed. A tunnel with a decent jackplate will let you get awfully skinny.
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby Yuchi1 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:37 pm

T Man wrote:
gearhead80 wrote:Well 1-2 foot chop really wouldn't be a big deal with either in the correct boat. What size boat you running or looking to run? Does speed matter? How far are you running? How deep is it? What kind of bottom? How much load?

I'm a personal fan of a tunnel over a SD. Tunnel with the largest outboard on it will suit a lot more situations IMO than a surface drive..


Agreed. A tunnel with a decent jackplate will let you get awfully skinny.


As long as you're up on plane, stop on a mudflat with 4" of water and it's a long push...been there, done that. :oops:
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby gearhead80 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:58 pm

Yuchi1 wrote:
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gearhead80 wrote:Well 1-2 foot chop really wouldn't be a big deal with either in the correct boat. What size boat you running or looking to run? Does speed matter? How far are you running? How deep is it? What kind of bottom? How much load?

I'm a personal fan of a tunnel over a SD. Tunnel with the largest outboard on it will suit a lot more situations IMO than a surface drive..


Agreed. A tunnel with a decent jackplate will let you get awfully skinny.


As long as you're up on plane, stop on a mudflat with 4" of water and it's a long push...been there, done that. :oops:


Yuchi1.. What kind of set up you got? Mine will take off in those conditions pretty well.. Actually I have taken off with the boat on the bottom with a hunting load in the mud leaving a guy with a long tail stuck on a patch of lilies. Should have seen his face.. :eek:
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby T Man » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:19 pm

Yuchi1 wrote:
T Man wrote:
gearhead80 wrote:Well 1-2 foot chop really wouldn't be a big deal with either in the correct boat. What size boat you running or looking to run? Does speed matter? How far are you running? How deep is it? What kind of bottom? How much load?

I'm a personal fan of a tunnel over a SD. Tunnel with the largest outboard on it will suit a lot more situations IMO than a surface drive..


Agreed. A tunnel with a decent jackplate will let you get awfully skinny.


As long as you're up on plane, stop on a mudflat with 4" of water and it's a long push...been there, done that. :oops:


Prop outboards dont belong in 4" of water. :thumbsup:
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby Yuchi1 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:49 pm

gearhead80 wrote:
Yuchi1 wrote:
T Man wrote:
gearhead80 wrote:Well 1-2 foot chop really wouldn't be a big deal with either in the correct boat. What size boat you running or looking to run? Does speed matter? How far are you running? How deep is it? What kind of bottom? How much load?

I'm a personal fan of a tunnel over a SD. Tunnel with the largest outboard on it will suit a lot more situations IMO than a surface drive..


Agreed. A tunnel with a decent jackplate will let you get awfully skinny.


As long as you're up on plane, stop on a mudflat with 4" of water and it's a long push...been there, done that. :oops:


Yuchi1.. What kind of set up you got? Mine will take off in those conditions pretty well.. Actually I have taken off with the boat on the bottom with a hunting load in the mud leaving a guy with a long tail stuck on a patch of lilies. Should have seen his face.. :eek:


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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby Yuchi1 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:54 pm

T Man wrote:
Yuchi1 wrote:
T Man wrote:
gearhead80 wrote:Well 1-2 foot chop really wouldn't be a big deal with either in the correct boat. What size boat you running or looking to run? Does speed matter? How far are you running? How deep is it? What kind of bottom? How much load?

I'm a personal fan of a tunnel over a SD. Tunnel with the largest outboard on it will suit a lot more situations IMO than a surface drive..


Agreed. A tunnel with a decent jackplate will let you get awfully skinny.


As long as you're up on plane, stop on a mudflat with 4" of water and it's a long push...been there, done that. :oops:


Prop outboards dont belong in 4" of water. :thumbsup:


There are guys running the Bluewave TH's w/prop/jackplate setups on the Gulf Coast flats in water of that depth however, they don't stop on them like I did. Of course, it was muddy water in a new area and the depth finder was showing <1' depth but I just didn't know how much less than 1' it really was. :oops:
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby gearhead80 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:53 pm

Ah, jet explains it.
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby T Man » Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:51 pm

Yuchi1 wrote:
T Man wrote:
Yuchi1 wrote:
T Man wrote:
gearhead80 wrote:Well 1-2 foot chop really wouldn't be a big deal with either in the correct boat. What size boat you running or looking to run? Does speed matter? How far are you running? How deep is it? What kind of bottom? How much load?

I'm a personal fan of a tunnel over a SD. Tunnel with the largest outboard on it will suit a lot more situations IMO than a surface drive..


Agreed. A tunnel with a decent jackplate will let you get awfully skinny.


As long as you're up on plane, stop on a mudflat with 4" of water and it's a long push...been there, done that. :oops:


Prop outboards dont belong in 4" of water. :thumbsup:


There are guys running the Bluewave TH's w/prop/jackplate setups on the Gulf Coast flats in water of that depth however, they don't stop on them like I did. Of course, it was muddy water in a new area and the depth finder was showing <1' depth but I just didn't know how much less than 1' it really was. :oops:


Not saying it can't be done, but if shallow running is what you expect to be doing a lot of a Prop is a poor choice given the avaliable alternatives
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby 887 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:03 am

Thanks for the help fellas. 90% of what I'm gonna run is accessible with a prop. It's that 10% that I'm concerned about. I guess my question is this, Are the drawbacks of a surface drive or tunnel while running that 90% worth it in order to get at that 10%?
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby T Man » Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:22 am

887 wrote:Thanks for the help fellas. 90% of what I'm gonna run is accessible with a prop. It's that 10% that I'm concerned about. I guess my question is this, Are the drawbacks of a surface drive or tunnel while running that 90% worth it in order to get at that 10%?


Boats and motors are always a tradeoff. Unless you can afford it, build/buy for what you use the boat for 90% of the time and work around the rest. A tunnel hull with a jackplate will allow you the greatest shallow water ability with a prop outboard though.
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby gearhead80 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:52 pm

887 wrote:Thanks for the help fellas. 90% of what I'm gonna run is accessible with a prop. It's that 10% that I'm concerned about. I guess my question is this, Are the drawbacks of a surface drive or tunnel while running that 90% worth it in order to get at that 10%?


Can't get much better than only worrying about 10% when it comes to this!!
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Re: Vented tunnel or surface drive

Postby threedogs » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:46 am

887 wrote:Thanks for the help fellas. 90% of what I'm gonna run is accessible with a prop. It's that 10% that I'm concerned about. I guess my question is this, Are the drawbacks of a surface drive or tunnel while running that 90% worth it in order to get at that 10%?



No, definitely not. You would be better off to buy a cheap thai mud motor to throw on the transom next to your ob for that 10 percent. Use it just like Walleye fishermen use a smaller ob to back troll.
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