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Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Bonesaw » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:25 pm

Looking for a new call I'm just getting into calling and want to know which you guys think is best for a beginner.

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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby msc8127 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:17 pm

I've never touched a c&s call, so I can't comment on them. I do have a conartist, which is the call I learned on, and I think it's a pretty good call. It blows very clean, so if you want raspy, you have to make it raspy with your voicing. Has good range both in terms of pitch and volume. Nicely built call as well.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby mayhem96 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:44 pm

Neither...get an RNT Original :thumbsup:
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Bonesaw » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:10 pm

Mayhem do you think it would be a good call to learn on? I've read nothing but good things about rnt mainly see stuff about the short barrel. And any reasoning as to why not the others
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby 11-87 Va » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:18 pm

I have a Conartist and a RNT Original. The Original is made out of bocote. As far as running the the two calls and learning on them, I would pick the Conartist. I can do more on the Conartist and sound better on it. Plus, the Conartist does not stick, or hasn't yet at least. The Original does. I'm not bashing the RNT call at all, it could be just me and the way I am blowing it. I don't know. As far as the C&S call is concerned, I have never ran one, but do own a C&S Disciple goose call that is very nice. I would like to try one of his duck calls myself. Hope this helps.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Bonesaw » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:55 pm

11-87 Va wrote:I have a Conartist and a RNT Original. The Original is made out of bocote. As far as running the the two calls and learning on them, I would pick the Conartist. I can do more on the Conartist and sound better on it. Plus, the Conartist does not stick, or hasn't yet at least. The Original does. I'm not bashing the RNT call at all, it could be just me and the way I am blowing it. I don't know. As far as the C&S call is concerned, I have never ran one, but do own a C&S Disciple goose call that is very nice. I would like to try one of his duck calls myself. Hope this helps.


Thanks for the info I appreciate it. Maybe I'll just have to get both :grooving:
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby mayhem96 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:08 pm

Bonesaw wrote:Mayhem do you think it would be a good call to learn on? I've read nothing but good things about rnt mainly see stuff about the short barrel. And any reasoning as to why not the others


It would be a great call to learn on as it has one thing the two you mentioned don't...range.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Bonesaw » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:12 pm

mayhem96 wrote:
Bonesaw wrote:Mayhem do you think it would be a good call to learn on? I've read nothing but good things about rnt mainly see stuff about the short barrel. And any reasoning as to why not the others


It would be a great call to learn on as it has one thing the two you mentioned don't...range.



Please explain? I'm new to the calls so I get what range means (it can go high and low) but I don't necessarily understand how the others may not have the range.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby nobs » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:23 pm

bonesaw, I would not take to much advice from a teenager with mediocre calling skills, I have used both conartist and the original. They are both great calls! The preacher is not bad either, but it wont have the top the other 2 have.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Bonesaw » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:37 pm

nobs wrote:bonesaw, I would not take to much advice from a teenager with mediocre calling skills, I have used both conartist and the original. They are both great calls! The preacher is not bad either, but it wont have the top the other 2 have.



Thank you for the advice. I am leaning towards the conartist but I meant to say the justifier not the preacher even tho I would probably of been interested in the preacher. And maybe even the redeemer. Any experience with those
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby nobs » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:42 pm

No problem, I have ran them and they are not bad, not my first pic, but not bad. You can also look to lares, echo and RM. Any of the calls mentioned will work and work well for you.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Bonesaw » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:47 pm

Thank you I really appreciate it. Just curious tho what would be your first pick?
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby nobs » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:00 pm

Its hard to say, i have ran calls from most of them that were bad azz, mostly just get one and run it!
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby mayhem96 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:09 pm

Bonesaw wrote:
mayhem96 wrote:
Bonesaw wrote:Mayhem do you think it would be a good call to learn on? I've read nothing but good things about rnt mainly see stuff about the short barrel. And any reasoning as to why not the others


It would be a great call to learn on as it has one thing the two you mentioned don't...range.



Please explain? I'm new to the calls so I get what range means (it can go high and low) but I don't necessarily understand how the others may not have the range.


They just don't have the "array" of sounds like the original. For me, I couldn't hit the C&S at all on the top end. The DLC was just a mid volume call but wasn't anything special IMHO.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby mayhem96 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:09 pm

nobs wrote:bonesaw, I would not take to much advice from a teenager with mediocre calling skills, I have used both conartist and the original. They are both great calls! The preacher is not bad either, but it wont have the top the other 2 have.


Really? Okay bud.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Bonesaw » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:46 pm

Thanks I'm just really trying to take as many opinions as possible. I will probably just have to test them out to see what I like I appreciate all the info tho
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby matteocacciadù » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:19 am

hello, I am using a conartist and the sound is very duck at the top is very clean, but it sticks after a few calls and the insert comes off too easily from the barrel. conartist the rasp of my hunting partner that is a pleasure and has more control and is perfect in all respects, however, on my behalf is not for beginners. many satisfactions in the right hands, rnt will be my next purchase
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Cliner » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:55 pm

mayhem96 wrote:
Bonesaw wrote:
mayhem96 wrote:
Bonesaw wrote:Mayhem do you think it would be a good call to learn on? I've read nothing but good things about rnt mainly see stuff about the short barrel. And any reasoning as to why not the others


It would be a great call to learn on as it has one thing the two you mentioned don't...range.



Please explain? I'm new to the calls so I get what range means (it can go high and low) but I don't necessarily understand how the others may not have the range.


They just don't have the "array" of sounds like the original. For me, I couldn't hit the C&S at all on the top end. The DLC was just a mid volume call but wasn't anything special IMHO.


Have you blown a conartist? It's an open water call. It has all the range one would need to hunt.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby mayhem96 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:19 pm

Cliner wrote:
mayhem96 wrote:
Bonesaw wrote:
mayhem96 wrote:
Bonesaw wrote:Mayhem do you think it would be a good call to learn on? I've read nothing but good things about rnt mainly see stuff about the short barrel. And any reasoning as to why not the others


It would be a great call to learn on as it has one thing the two you mentioned don't...range.



Please explain? I'm new to the calls so I get what range means (it can go high and low) but I don't necessarily understand how the others may not have the range.


They just don't have the "array" of sounds like the original. For me, I couldn't hit the C&S at all on the top end. The DLC was just a mid volume call but wasn't anything special IMHO.


Have you blown a conartist? It's an open water call. It has all the range one would need to hunt.


Yup
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Cliner » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:35 am

mayhem96 wrote:
Cliner wrote:
mayhem96 wrote:
Bonesaw wrote:
mayhem96 wrote:
Bonesaw wrote:Mayhem do you think it would be a good call to learn on? I've read nothing but good things about rnt mainly see stuff about the short barrel. And any reasoning as to why not the others


It would be a great call to learn on as it has one thing the two you mentioned don't...range.



Please explain? I'm new to the calls so I get what range means (it can go high and low) but I don't necessarily understand how the others may not have the range.


They just don't have the "array" of sounds like the original. For me, I couldn't hit the C&S at all on the top end. The DLC was just a mid volume call but wasn't anything special IMHO.


Have you blown a conartist? It's an open water call. It has all the range one would need to hunt.

Yup


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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Ranger Rick » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:07 pm

Late to the party. I've got a saint, con artist and loud timber. Never had the conartist fall apart and im tough on toys. I bought one of their reed kits because I was lazy and experimentation really woke all three up. I was looking for a bouncy, squeaky feed and both the lt and the conartist had it right off the bat. That being said, I sure don't claim professional honors as a caller but I really like both the lt and conartist. With some practice, you can also whine and squeal both. I have talked to bobby a few times and he couldn't have been nicer or more helpful any of those times. I also found that if you wanted, you can really pour some air into the lt and it seems to like it as have a few ducks. I mean, for your money you really can't go wrong with dlc and they definitely are on par with the industry with customer service. A plus for me is they are also a ks company and I'm a displaced airman so I harbor a little love for the hometown guy.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby KyMike » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:16 am

Having had both calls I would go with the Conartist. Both are good calls but the Conartist has more range, has more volume and I think just sounds better. If you looking at other calls outside those two I would suggest the Committed Custom Calls Illinois Cut for a new caller. It has more volume than the other two, is very raspy and easy to run. By that I mean it does not take a lot of air and can hide less than perfect technique. It may not have quite as much range as a Conartist but the very little you give up in range you more than make up for in a very forgiving call.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby WiHonker » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:27 pm

If you get a Conartist, make sure to get the Hand Cut, not the standard cnc version.
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby 11-87 Va » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:14 pm

WiHonker wrote:If you get a Conartist, make sure to get the Hand Cut, not the standard cnc version.


^^^ This. Bobby's Hand Cut stuff is very nice!
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Re: Ducklander conartist or c&s preacher

Postby Ranger Rick » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:51 pm

WiHonker wrote:If you get a Conartist, make sure to get the Hand Cut, not the standard cnc version.

Check out their YouTube video welcome to ducklander shop time. They don't cnc anything. It's all supposed to be done on a lathe by hand. The major difference between the hand cut and the regular conartist is raspiness from what he told me on the phone. Also apparently not quite as much hold either but my wife wouldn't let me spring for one so I haven't run one. They do look cool as hell though.
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