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Postby mantis » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:48 am

probably old news too most but just incase

Goose Hunting in Argentina is now Illegal !


Argentina had arguably the best goose hunting in the world. Nowhere in the world do the geese decoy closer, and in such great numbers. Combine that with no limits, no plugs, no steel shot, and you had a goose hunting bonanza beyond compare.
These geese are crop destroying pests and the Argentine government places no limit on how many one can shoot. And they still don’t…they just ban the shooting of these birds in all of the productive counties in the country in order to protect a sub-species of the Magellan goose called the Cauquén Colorado (Chloephaga rubidiceps) that has made the endangered species list.


Yes, it is an all or nothing, throw the baby out with the bathwater approach. But it is the law, and the Argentine government is deadly serious about enforcing it. Several Argentina hunting outfitters (and their clients) were jailed for hunting in illegal areas this year. There are now signs warning you not to hunt geese in the airports where visiting wingshooters clear their firearms.

Local farmers still welcome American hunters to hunt on their land in an attempt to ease the destruction of their profits, since it is no longer legal for them to poison the birds. But now it is against the law for anyone to shoot Ashyhead and Magellan geese now in any county that they frequent because the protected goose is said to flock with them, and could accidentally be shot.

Because of the fact that this ban was instituted a week before the season started this year, it naturally caused us problems. We were forced to hunt only in legal areas, and the goose shooting was predictably fair—and fair is way below our standards.

As you can imagine, no intelligent businessman is going to book an entire season full of hunters, only to have this happen again. One time, shame on the Argentines, two times, shame on us. So we are done for now. We are monitoring the situation closely, and if things change, we will be back in the market to serve our customers—but a lot of time will have to pas with out a ban for us to re-enter the market for this particular type of wingshooting.

Until then, you can count on Los Gauchos to keep you updated on the goose shooting situation. Our advice to all hunters is this: DO NOT BOOK A GOOSE HUNT TO ARGENTINA until at least two or three seasons pass without a ban (their was a partial ban in 2005 as well).

Additionally, we suggest that you contact us before leaving on any goose hunting trip that you have booked with another outfitter, and we will provide you with a copy of the most current laws (including the one below) on the ban in order to make sure you are not being deceived. If your outfitter does put you in a situation that is illegal, and you are jailed, or your property is confiscated, we will be happy to assist your attorney with any information he or she might need for a lawsuit against the agent or agency that booked your hunt…and should have known not to.

If you have a goose hunt to Argentina booked for 2008, we suggest that you get it in writing from your booking agent that you will receive a full refund in the event that the ban is not reversed, or have him or her book you into another hunt in place of the geese. It’s your money, and your livelihood—don’t take chances, and don’t assume anything.

For your reading pleasure, Resolution 83, which extended the ban to every productive goose hunting county in Argentina is provided below (in Spanish). The ones not mentioned, are not worth hunting…but sources in the department of fauna say that a complete nationwide ban will be declared in 2008.

Savvy hunters would ask their agent to sign off that your hunt is going to be conducted in a completely legal area (good luck) and not subject to the restrictions set forth in the Articles below:
From the office of the:

Gobierno de la Provincia de Buenos Aires
Minesterio de Asuntos Agrarios
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Postby Scattergun Gooch » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:14 pm

Thanks for the Information this is very interesting
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protected goose

Postby The Waterfowler » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:29 pm

The goose that is protected is the Ruddy-headed Goose which isn't a subspecies of the Magellan. It's the same genus but an entirely different species. I've only seen one killed in over a dozen trips down there. They are very rare in the traditional goose shooting areas. They are not found in that big of an area to begin with. It's more of the politics that is going on down there. Much like the exporting of birds from there now, which is a pain and most species of ducks are now illegal as the permit only allows for 5 species.
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Postby SkyCarp13 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:15 pm

My dad is supposed to be going to Argentina next month so this is very helpful. Also just clarifying you can't shoot geese in most areas and did I understand right that some species of ducks are banned too? you can only shoot 5 species of ducks?
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Postby The Waterfowler » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:12 pm

No, you can shoot all the ducks and species you want. It's just that many are illegal now to export and the only ones you can get a permit to legally export are Rosybills, Yellow-billed Pintails, Red Shovelers, White-faced Whistling Ducks and Chiloe Wigeon. Only 2 of each are permitted. We're having clients held up in B.A. and birds seized. The permit takes 3 days to get unless your outfitter will go through the trouble of getting you one. Also we've had American Airlines refuse to put them on the plane even with a permit as they are afraid of bird-flu which isn't even in the southern hemisphere. Geese are now being offered protection in a lot of areas, but are still being shot by some outfitters, but several of the big ones have quit. Some areas have also been affected by drought as well. It's become a mess and even if you get birds out of the country and the USF&W, USDA and/or Homeland Security may realize certain birds are protected down there and take them away from you once in the U.S. Birds are also being held up for inspection and not allowed to come on through and we've had several shipments rot before we could get them.
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Postby SkyCarp13 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:19 pm

Oh ok thanks for the info Waterfowler appreciate it. Take it easy.
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Update Goose hunting Argentina

Postby 10garem » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:00 am

mantis not sure were U get that information
Goose Hunting in Argentina is now Illegal

Goose hunting HAS NEVER been Illegal or closed in ALL of Argentina
Last year 2007 they did close goose hunting in Buenos Aires province to protect Ruddy Headed goose or common name Red breasted goose BUT most all other province was open for goose hunting including province boarding Buenos Aires province.

This Year it is Legal to goose hunt in Buenos Aires province with exceptions of 8 - 9 Counties they closed which borders Coast in B.A. province. This has made it VERY difficult for several Outfitters.

Still Greatest Goose hunting I know of
I have been twice this year to Argentina Duck and Goose hunting and have had exceptional hunting for both each time.

Do not be concerned about going Argentina Goose hunting as it is Legal EXCEPT in 8-9 Counties which border the Coast in Buenos Aires Province. (Circles indicate county closed for goose hunting.

Argentina Government at this time is looking into loss Revenue from the closing of these Counties and considering what to do next year 2009 Goose huting in Buenos Aires province and Counties.

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