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Claws or BFG M/T

Postby wingshooter2009 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:35 pm

what do u guys think? ive got a 2000 jeep wrangler 2.5 needing some new tires soon. im gonna get a RCX 2.5in lift but cant deside on either 31in MT Baja Claws or 32in BFG mudders. both cost about the same. HELP ME OUT HERE GUYS!! :thumbsup:
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Postby bambam » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:12 pm

i would go with the bfg m/ts. they are very road friendly and can get u through just about anything in the field. either way you cannot go wrong.
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Postby lockedup » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:55 pm

go claws, unless you drive long distances offten
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:10 pm

lockedup wrote:go claws, unless you drive long distances offten


why is that?
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Postby lockedup » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:19 pm

well if you spend more time on the road with the claws, you aint really getin what you paid for. I think that they are at least $40 more that the AT's a piece, so that is where I was basing my theory....
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:54 am

true.. ok so now to size... 32s or 31s?
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Postby lockedup » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:58 pm

wingshooter2009 wrote:true.. ok so now to size... 32s or 31s?


id be tuckin whatever I could fit, brother. bigger the better! :thumbsup:
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Postby LaRedneck » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:49 pm

The Claws suck with anything smaller than 35's and 35's is pushing it. Just not enough void. I had 38 claws and they were bad asssss and did well on the road being so aggressive. SO since your looking for 31 or 2's i'd get the M/Ts.
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:53 pm

yeah but what size? is there that much a difference?
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Postby lockedup » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:43 am

You said you have a wrangler 2.5. I would assume that is a 4 banger? If so, I dont think I would go to big
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:46 am

yeah it the 4banger. it is a 5speed tho so i will have a little more control over the powerband. and ive talked to alot of other 2.5 owners and they said that they have no problem runing a 32 as a DD. 33 is when you will prob have to re-gear.
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Postby ajmorell » Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:50 pm

IMHO Claws are a joke. They aren't good for anything but mud. I assume you are talking about the new style BFGs correct? The new style BFGs are very road friendly and are very sticky and capable off road. If you are looking at a tire strictly for the mud I would look harder at the claws but otherwise I wouldn't even consider them.
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:48 pm

nah itll be a primaraly street tire. and im looking at the old style BFG.
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Postby ajmorell » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:45 am

wingshooter2009 wrote:nah itll be a primaraly street tire. and im looking at the old style BFG.


Even still I would go with the BFG (even though you can't get the old style unless you're going used (at least that is what I've heard)). The old style BFGs wear like iron, it isn't abnormal to get 50k out of a set, especially on a light vehicle like a Jeep. Claws will not serve you well on road and are just 'ok' offroad. They do not have much lateral stability and wear like crap. All that and they are also directional so you more than likely won't get even wear out since you won't be able to follow a normal rotation pattern on them.
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:52 pm

idk ive found the old style all over the internet! so now that i know im going BFG i can deside on 32s or 31s.. :no:
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Postby ajmorell » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:22 pm

Go with 31s. You said it will be mostly on road and with the 4cyl you will hate the 32s. You won't be able to maintain speed very well and your mileage will suffer a ton.
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:53 pm

is there that much of a size difference between the two?
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Postby ajmorell » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:58 pm

The biggest difference you'll notice is in the width, but if you plan on driving with these tires in all seasons the skinnier tires will do better in the snow.
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Postby Ramsey84 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:05 am

I agree that you should run the BFG's in a 31" tire. That little 2.5 isn't exactly the beefiest engine in the world, and you will notice quite a difference in the ability to maintain speed, and a loss in fuel economy between the 31's and 32's. I have the old BFG MT's in a 35" on my F250 and they are wearing like iron even on that heavy truck.
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Postby seabee67 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:47 pm

As far as tire size goes I have had two CJ-7 jeeps both had 31's no lift and they had no clearance issues. Never had a YJ so not sure if it helps you or not.
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:35 pm

seabee67 wrote:As far as tire size goes I have had two CJ-7 jeeps both had 31's no lift and they had no clearance issues. Never had a YJ so not sure if it helps you or not.


i have the TJ and can deff run 31s with no lift easy :thumbsup:

idk, this guy in jeepforum.com told me he is runing 32s on his 2.5 and totally regrets going with 31s the first time he got new tires.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=626710

heres the post.. im wingshooter2009 on there as well. Hey Aj! PM me if u get on this one!
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Postby ajmorell » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:04 pm

Since it seems to me that you're not going to be using this heavily off-road I don't see any reason to run 32s. Even with 32s off-road and no lift you'll be rubbing everywhere. 31s will at least allow for some flex should you need it. I see in that thread on JF that one guy says there was a huge diff and one says there wasn't, so who knows....


If it were me I would go with the 31s just so I wouldn't have to deal with the rubbing issues.
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:24 am

oh yeah ill deff be getting a lift. im looking at the rough country 2.5in lift and later adding a 1in body lift.
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Postby ajmorell » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:12 pm

I guess it depends then. The 32s will look better with the lift without a doubt. Will the majority of your driving be city or highway?
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Postby wingshooter2009 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:36 pm

city, i live in a small town. but when i go to the next town over (30mins) its a 55mph on the highway.
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