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Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby John Singer » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:06 pm

Walmart sells Federal brand nontoxic shotshell called Federal Upland Steel. It is available in 12 gauge 1 1/8 oz of #6 or #7 shot with a velocity of 1400 fps.

It sells for $5.94/box.

My questions are:

Would this make a good teal load?

I usually use hand loads of 16 gauge loads 7/8 oz of #4 steel for early teal seasons.

How does #6 compare to #4 for effectiveness for teal?
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby derbyacresbob » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:25 pm

Steel #6 shot works good on Dove.

1400 fps steel #6 shot gets 1.50" of gel penetration at 16.1 yards.
1400 fps steel #4 shot gets 1.50" of gel penetration at 29.7 yards.
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Rick Hall » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:08 am

I'm a small steel guy for all of my (freshwater) ducks, but have found 7s and 6s leave more shot in the bird than I'm happy with.
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby 3200 man » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:26 am

Rick Hall wrote:I'm a small steel guy for all of my (freshwater) ducks, but have found 7s and 6s leave more shot in the bird than I'm happy with.


I like your style , as I agree ! Using this size small shot on thin feathered upland birds is one thing but on waterfowl
it should be a crime ! #5 in steel should be the limit as , it does a fair job on Teal size birds with a velosity of 1400 fps Plus !
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Rick Hall » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:16 am

3200 man wrote:
Rick Hall wrote:Using this size small shot on thin feathered upland birds is one thing but on waterfowl
it should be a crime ! #5 in steel should be the limit as , it does a fair job on Teal size birds with a velosity of 1400 fps Plus !


I've long favored Kent's 2 3/4" 7/8oz 20ga Upland Steel 5s for all of my (freshwater) duck hunting, but gave Rio's 2 3/4" 7/8oz 5s listed at 1345 fps a go this year, after both my local sources quit carrying the Kents. And at better than half a case in, I can't say I've seen any appreciable difference other than seeming to burn somewhat dirtier.

(While we do shoot a lot of teal, mallards have led the log to date.)
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby 3200 man » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:17 am

I load my own as I favor 1475 fps in all my loads as it slows down faster but gets there quicker ! haha
With 5's 7/8 oz is enough pellets to fully cover most birds if I'm shooting straight ! :yes: And , surprisingly I don't have
to shoot'em in the hole ! :lol3: :lol3:
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby John Singer » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:28 pm

Thank you for the replies. I fully agree with the responses. I have never been impressed with the performance of #6 steel on waterfowl. I have shot several woodcock with it and it performed well.

I do have some #4 and #5 steel that I will use next fall for teal.
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Jim Atlas » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:42 pm

I use #6 for water swatting ducks. So if you plan on shooting the teal in the head on the wing, should be good. Too small a target for me if it's not standing still.
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Tman91 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:45 am

Steel 6's and 7's are a good load to keep on deck for head shooting cripples. As previously stated, it leaves too much dang shot in the meat for my teeth to find otherwise. Just my $0.02

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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby BusterAZ » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:53 pm

John Singer wrote:Walmart sells Federal brand nontoxic shotshell called Federal Upland Steel. It is available in 12 gauge 1 1/8 oz of #6 or #7 shot with a velocity of 1400 fps.

It sells for $5.94/box.

My questions are:

Would this make a good teal load?

I usually use hand loads of 16 gauge loads 7/8 oz of #4 steel for early teal seasons.

How does #6 compare to #4 for effectiveness for teal?


As an accident (mixed it up with federal #2) I was able to kill a close decoying mallard back in October. I had the #6 in my blind bag because I planned to hunt ducks early than switch to quail mid morning. I mostly hunt with steel for everything because I like mixed bags and the federal upland is great for dove and quail. I wouldn’t intentionally hunt waterfowl with it. If I’m mostly hunting teal, then I’ll use a 20 gauge and like hevi metal #4 with mod choke for decoying birds or full choke if they are farther out.
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Joe Hunter » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:16 pm

John, most of the teal (Sept. blue and regular season green) shooting I've been around was a pretty close range affair (<30 yards). That said, I've shot a good many teal with #6 steel loads (both 20ga and 12ga) similar to the one you mentioned.

I would also agree with the others that said a #5 steel load may be the optimum teal load, but I doubt any of the teal I've shot over the years would have noticed much difference in #6, #5 or #4 steel loads as long as they were in range and I put the pattern on them! And, I also carry some #6 steel loads for dispatching cripples during the regular season.

Here are some of my pattern numbers with the 12ga Winchester Xpert load that I've shot many teal with to give you an idea of how they perform in my gun and chokes.

Pattern results from a 12-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels using Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell pellet count average of five).

12 GA 2 3/4" WINCHESTER XPERT GAME & TARGET STEEL LOAD
1 oz #6 steel (306 pellets) @ 1325 fps
30 YARDS – SK / pattern 234 (76%)
30 YARDS – IC / pattern 261 (85%)
40 YARDS – LM / pattern 220 (72%)
40 YARDS – M / pattern 222 (73%)

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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby 3200 man » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:30 am

Was watching a U Tube video of pigeon shooting and they were using Gamebores New load of steel #5's but what was
interesting was , the shooter showing how Biodegradable (with water) the wads were ! As the shooter put 2 of these
wads in a plastic container and poured water on them , then set them on the ground as he prepared to hunt pigeons .
After he was done shooting (about 4 hrs) he showed the wads had pretty much desolved to a slimy glob ! He didn't say what
these wads were made of but in a steel shot load of these 5's , he certainly didn't have a problem killing pigeons with
the 32 grm load !
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Hunterhewi » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:45 am

Most of you guys would laugh at me and my 2 buds if we showed up to hunt with you and you seen what we hunt ducks with. From teal to mallards within 35 yards, 6 shot it DEADLY. Very very few cripples. All we use for decoying ducks in close is 6 shot. Later season on the rivers and lakes, i bump up to 3 shot. Most people laugh until they see how well these shells smash ducks
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby bullet225ho » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:05 pm

I shot 3/4oz Steel 5s @ 1350fps in 28ga last year on decoying ducks. I started the morning off with steel in the barell and TSS duplex behind them. I ended up putting the duplex back in the box and went straight steel for the next 2 hunts. This was mix bag of wigeon, gadwall, redheads, teal...all sizes. If I put the pattern on them they were dead. About the only way I could see #6 is wood ducks twisting through timber at tip of the gun barrel range or maybe early teal......

Of course I'll never say never on 6's as I've showed up to plenty of hunts with 410 and some guys looked at me like I was a clown. They quit giving me first shot after a just a few groups.
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Jim Atlas » Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:12 pm

Of course it can be done (I myself have shot several ducks on the wing with #6 loads). But is it the best option available? Maybe your shoulder can't handle "normal" steel loads. Maybe your wallet can't handle tungsten. Maybe you never see a bird past 25 yards. Or perhaps you enjoy the self imposed handicap. All good reason to choose #6 shot. But dont pretend there isn't a trade off.
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby BusterAZ » Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:58 am

Anyone using the Upland Steel #7.5 for doves? How’s it compare to the #6?
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Joe Hunter » Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:13 pm

I've not shot any doves with #7.5 steel shot, but I have shot a good many with #7 and #6 steel. I would guess the #7.5 steel load would be ok for close range (<30 yards) dove, but I'd rather use a #7 steel load for close range birds and a #6 steel load if shots get out around 40 yards.
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby BusterAZ » Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:10 pm

Joe Hunter wrote:I've not shot any doves with #7.5 steel shot, but I have shot a good many with #7 and #6 steel. I would guess the #7.5 steel load would be ok for close range (<30 yards) dove, but I'd rather use a #7 steel load for close range birds and a #6 steel load if shots get out around 40 yards.


Thanks. I’m more than impressed with this load in #6 and have a flat of each! I’ll be carrying both just in case!
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Dave in AZ » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:54 pm

Buster where are you getting that fed upland 6 steel? Haven't seen it and might give it a try this dove season just to up my small steel field experience data. Thx
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby jsh909 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:36 pm

Dave in AZ wrote:Buster where are you getting that fed upland 6 steel? Haven't seen it and might give it a try this dove season just to up my small steel field experience data. Thx

Walmart here in my part of Ohio have it
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby BusterAZ » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:57 pm

Dave in AZ wrote:Buster where are you getting that fed upland 6 steel? Haven't seen it and might give it a try this dove season just to up my small steel field experience data. Thx


I buy it when it is in sale at Academy Sports. They deliver to the door at a competitive price!
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby BusterAZ » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:58 pm

Dave in AZ wrote:Buster where are you getting that fed upland 6 steel? Haven't seen it and might give it a try this dove season just to up my small steel field experience data. Thx


I buy it when it is in sale at Academy Sports. They deliver to the door at a competitive price!
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby Dave in AZ » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:47 pm

Ahh thx. I get 28ga from Academy. But just want to try a box or two. Been hitting Walmart the last few.weeks, got some fed 16ga 1oz 7.5s for $8 but saw no steel 6s. Will keep looking.
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby 3200 man » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:00 pm

Dave in AZ wrote:Ahh thx. I get 28ga from Academy. But just want to try a box or two. Been hitting Walmart the last few.weeks, got some fed 16ga 1oz 7.5s for $8 but saw no steel 6s. Will keep looking.


If I would have known I would have loaded you a couple boxes of 7/8 oz Steel 6's at 1290 fps in 12 ga ?
They will impress you if you shoot straight with a IM or LF , it's amazing these hard pellets going clear through 99.5% of
the birds both Morning and Ringnecks !
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Re: Federal Upland Steel for Teal?

Postby BusterAZ » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:31 pm

I tried a box of #7 1/2 this morning for the dove opener and it did not work out too well. It can barely kill a horse fly! Switched back to the #6. The #7 1/2 only worked within 20 yards, so I don’t see it having much practical use in the field.
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