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Penny wads CTPS

Postby wildflights » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:32 am

Ballistic Products has a new wad on sale called a Cushioned TPS. Priced at $50. for a case of 4,000 works out to $1.25/100 ct. This wad is similar in style to a TUWSBL28/CSD100 except that it is exceptionally tall, likely geared toward 3-1/2" 12 gauge wrappers.

I trimmed the overall length of the wad down from 2.235 inches to 1.624 and put together three loads in 2-3/4" hulls. Two loads contained one ounce of steel shot and one 1-1/4 oz. of Hevi Shot.

Load #1 based on Lightning Steel #32 subbing the CTPS for the TUWSBL28/CSD100 in a Remington Gun Club hull. It came in HOT at 1,517 FPS and 13,460 PSI I believe if this had been submitted with two grains less powder per Precision Reloadings recipe #120014 it would likely have been a viable load.

Load #2 – based on Precision Reloading #120010 CTPS wad in place of TUWSBL28/CSD100
2-3/4 Federal GM hull
FED209A
32.0 gr Alliant Steel
CTPS wad (no filler)
1 oz. 435 gr. #2 steel pellets
1,507 FPS 10,340 PSI

Load #3 – CTPS wad Hevi Shot
2-3/4 Federal Top Gun hull paper base
FED209A
30.5 gr Alliant Steel
CTPS wad (+ mylar wrap)
1-1/4 oz. 546 gr. #2 Hevi Shot pellets
1,352 FPS 10,480 PSI

While Load #1 is unusable due to excessively high pressure, Loads #2 & #3 are consistent with good velocity. Pretty good for penny wads.
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby C M Wings » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:02 am

Load 1 is fine from 3.5 inch guns only which are rated at 14.5K psi. But yes hot from any other 12 bore. Those gun clubs run higher pressure.... I bet it comes down to 11K out of a cheddite or rio hull, and I'd shoot that out of any 12.
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby Dave in AZ » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:50 am

Nice work, thx for the great.data and posting it!
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby wildflights » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:51 am

Dave- Thank you for the LS recipe. It worked out putting a top end for testing. It also toned down what I submitted for testing.

CM Wings- Maybe I'm wrong on this but Load #2 with a Federal Gold Medal and a FED209A should prove that any straight wall hull with any primer should be safe at 32 grains ASteel. FWIW- I used a bottle of Lot 34.
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby Duckwyatt80 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:02 pm

I am glad you posted this. I bought a case of these wads because I just couldn’t help myself. Now I have a load for them. I would like to see how they do in the Remington straight wall hull with Yellow basewad.
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby wildflights » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:27 pm

Thanks Duckwyatt. It's good to know that it was helpful. Now I need an efficient process to trim/split wads The razor on the stick is consistent but I'm not looking forward to twisting 4 thousand of these. :help: :lol3:

Precision Reloading has TUWSBL28/CSD100 data available for the Remington hull with yellow basewad. A lot of those 7/8 oz. loads look promising along with the heavier Longshot data. I bet if some of those were sent in for testing with a wad swap they'd be in the ballpark. https://www.precisionreloading.com/docs ... ebsite.pdf
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby Duckwyatt80 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:40 pm

I spoke to Ballistic Products about these wads about 3 weeks ago. They said they are suppose to develop data for these wads in 2021. In the meantime they said I could use them in a load with 10,500psi or less. I don’t know if I am going to or not. Now that I have your load I have a sure fire recipe. :thumbsup:
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby Duckwyatt80 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:42 pm

wildflights wrote:Thanks Duckwyatt. It's good to know that it was helpful. Now I need an efficient process to trim/split wads The razor on the stick is consistent but I'm not looking forward to twisting 4 thousand of these. :help: :lol3:

Precision Reloading has TUWSBL28/CSD100 data available for the Remington hull with yellow basewad. A lot of those 7/8 oz. loads look promising along with the heavier Longshot data. I bet if some of those were sent in for testing with a wad swap they'd be in the ballpark. https://www.precisionreloading.com/docs ... ebsite.pdf

They do look like they could be subbed in for the TUWSBL28/CSD100 when trimmed.
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby C M Wings » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:33 am

I'm just sticking to pre-slit, proper length wads out of the bag.... I mess up as many wads as I use when I try my hand a wad surgery. :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby Shurshot » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:12 am

Wad surgery made easy fellows ....

LBC 50’s become 43’s when needed. TPS 2-3/4” wads that need only 1/8th” taken off-no problem.

If possible, use blade (like a plywood one) that has lots of teeth so it doesn’t grab was when trimming.

I think my “guides” are 3/4”. A little loose for 12ga but you can tighten them to fit snug which is what you want.

Warning! Keep hand and fingers away from blade (duh) and be sure to wear safety glasses as trimmed ends can fly off.
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby C M Wings » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:57 am

wildflights wrote:Dave- Thank you for the LS recipe. It worked out putting a top end for testing. It also toned down what I submitted for testing.

CM Wings- Maybe I'm wrong on this but Load #2 with a Federal Gold Medal and a FED209A should prove that any straight wall hull with any primer should be safe at 32 grains ASteel. FWIW- I used a bottle of Lot 34.


Cannon used to say 32gn of STEEL, WIN209 and any wad in a FGM was a safe load with 1 1/8 shot. So this is right in line with that. I don't think you need a hot FED209 for 32gns - be interesting to see the data with a WIN209. I've shot a bunch of 1 ounce steel out of straight walled hulls with 32-34gns of STEEL and never seen an over pressure issue. I pretty much stick to WIN209 primers unless I have a specific FED 209 recipe.
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby wildflights » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:27 pm

While Load #1 is unusable due to excessively high pressure, I did shoot some lighter powder drops over the chrono.

2-3/4 Remington Gun Club hull
FED209A
28.0 gr Alliant Steel
CTPS wad (no filler)
1 oz. 435 gr. #2 steel pellets
1,400 fps avg. NOT TESTED, NO PRESSURE DATA


2-3/4 Remington Gun Club hull
FED209A
23.0 gr Alliant Steel
CTPS wad (no filler)
1 oz. 435 gr. #2 steel pellets
1,197 fps avg. NOT TESTED, NO PRESSURE DATA


2-3/4 Federal Top Gun hull
FED209A
AL.N gr Alliant Steel
CTPS wad (no filler)
Heavy 7/8+ oz. @ 400 gr. #2 steel pellets
1,612 fps NOT TESTED, NO PRESSURE DATA, LIKELY HOT
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Re: Penny wads CTPS

Postby Duckwyatt80 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:29 pm

I need a good 1 1/8 ounce load for these wads in a Remington 3” hull with yellow basewad. If anyone has a good tested load. Just putting this out there. Thanks I’m advance.
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