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Duck ID

Postby SpinnerMan » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:45 pm

/Anybody have any clue what kind of duck this is?

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Seriously, what kind of hawk is this? I came across it this morning archery hunting. Curious what it is.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby HNTFSH » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:57 pm

SpinnerMan wrote:/Anybody have any clue what kind of duck this is?

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Seriously, what kind of hawk is this? I came across it this morning archery hunting. Curious what it is.


Nice shot! You're a helluva Archer. :clapping:
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Re: Duck ID

Postby Locked&Loaded » Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:13 pm

99% of the time you can accurately answer 'hen goldeneye' to duck ID questions without seeing the duck in question. Not this time.

I'm guessing it's a sharp shinned hawk.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby SpinnerMan » Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:16 pm

HNTFSH wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:/Anybody have any clue what kind of duck this is?

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Seriously, what kind of hawk is this? I came across it this morning archery hunting. Curious what it is.


Nice shot! You're a helluva Archer. :clapping:

It was only tree top high when it went over. Easy shot :lol3:
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Re: Duck ID

Postby jsh909 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:46 pm

Chicken hawk is what we call them around here, but I think that nomenclature encompasses 3 or 4 different hawks depending on region
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Re: Duck ID

Postby cluckmeister » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:16 pm

Looks like a Democrat Hawk to me
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Re: Duck ID

Postby Boatman » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:47 am

Could be a young peregrine Falcon

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Re: Duck ID

Postby Indaswamp » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:47 pm

Boatman wrote:Could be a young peregrine Falcon

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That is my vote....a falcon.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby SpinnerMan » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:08 am

Indaswamp wrote:
Boatman wrote:Could be a young peregrine Falcon

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That is my vote....a falcon.

Falcon never crossed my mind. Immature falcon is possible.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby HNTFSH » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:15 am

Coopers Hawk.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby Locked&Loaded » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:18 am

I'm telling ya, it's a sharp shinned hawk.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby HNTFSH » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:58 am

Locked&Loaded wrote:I'm telling ya, it's a sharp shinned hawk.
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Looks bigger than that unless he wears a size 4 boot.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby Locked&Loaded » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:04 am

HNTFSH wrote:
Locked&Loaded wrote:I'm telling ya, it's a sharp shinned hawk.
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Looks bigger than that unless he wears a size 4 boot.


Well he is from IL, so "light in the boots (loafers)" may apply.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby HNTFSH » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:10 am

Locked&Loaded wrote:
HNTFSH wrote:
Locked&Loaded wrote:I'm telling ya, it's a sharp shinned hawk.
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Looks bigger than that unless he wears a size 4 boot.


Well he is from IL, so "light in the boots (loafers)" may apply.


You picked up on the girly boot too, eh?
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Re: Duck ID

Postby Locked&Loaded » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:16 am

HNTFSH wrote:
Locked&Loaded wrote:
HNTFSH wrote:
Locked&Loaded wrote:I'm telling ya, it's a sharp shinned hawk.
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Looks bigger than that unless he wears a size 4 boot.


Well he is from IL, so "light in the boots (loafers)" may apply.


You picked up on the girly boot too, eh?


I assumed those were his wife's feet.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby HNTFSH » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:17 am

Locked&Loaded wrote:
HNTFSH wrote:
Locked&Loaded wrote:
HNTFSH wrote:
Locked&Loaded wrote:I'm telling ya, it's a sharp shinned hawk.
70780511-480px.jpg


Looks bigger than that unless he wears a size 4 boot.


Well he is from IL, so "light in the boots (loafers)" may apply.


You picked up on the girly boot too, eh?


I assumed those were his wife's feet.


AHH!!! Good call. :clapping:
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Re: Duck ID

Postby SpinnerMan » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:21 am

Unless they got a red tail or a white head and a white tail, I can't tell these things apart even that close. I had one of those really big ones with the white head and white tail fly by me this morning at about 40 yards in the bright sun. Those are always cool to see, especially when close.

Cooper's and sharp shinned was what I was thinking from the beginning but there was absolutely none of that rusty brown. However, what I've learned this year is that there is a hell of a lot of color variation in hawks.

It says a sharp-shinned is the size of a jay. This was more the size of crow like the cooper's or falcon.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby Locked&Loaded » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:54 am

SpinnerMan wrote:Unless they got a red tail or a white head and a white tail, I can't tell these things apart even that close. I had one of those really big ones with the white head and white tail fly by me this morning at about 40 yards in the bright sun. Those are always cool to see, especially when close.

Cooper's and sharp shinned was what I was thinking from the beginning but there was absolutely none of that rusty brown. However, what I've learned this year is that there is a hell of a lot of color variation in hawks.

It says a sharp-shinned is the size of a jay. This was more the size of crow like the cooper's or falcon.


I thought the bird in the picture was a bit smaller, so if it is crow sized, it probably is a juvenile cooper's. I don't believe it's a peregrine, but it could be. They are roughly the same size as a cooper's.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby HNTFSH » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:19 am

Locked&Loaded wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:Unless they got a red tail or a white head and a white tail, I can't tell these things apart even that close. I had one of those really big ones with the white head and white tail fly by me this morning at about 40 yards in the bright sun. Those are always cool to see, especially when close.

Cooper's and sharp shinned was what I was thinking from the beginning but there was absolutely none of that rusty brown. However, what I've learned this year is that there is a hell of a lot of color variation in hawks.

It says a sharp-shinned is the size of a jay. This was more the size of crow like the cooper's or falcon.


I thought the bird in the picture was a bit smaller, so if it is crow sized, it probably is a juvenile cooper's. I don't believe it's a peregrine, but it could be. They are roughly the same size as a cooper's.


Agreed on the juvy Coopers. I've seen them dead before.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby Indaswamp » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:02 pm

The real question is...how did he taste?
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Re: Duck ID

Postby SpinnerMan » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:04 pm

Indaswamp wrote:The real question is...how did he taste?


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Like chicken.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby Rat Creek » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:15 pm

Let's set the record straight. :hammer:

SpinnerMan wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:The real question is...how did he taste?


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Like Bald Eagle.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby SpinnerMan » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:36 pm

Rat Creek wrote:Let's set the record straight. :hammer:

SpinnerMan wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:The real question is...how did he taste?


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Like Bald Eagle.

No. More like California Condor. A little milder than the Northern Spotted Owl.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby uglymug » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:23 am

That looks like a Sparrow Hawk, but there's a solid 80% chance that all of the hawks we're listing are actually the same bird that we all have different names for.
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Re: Duck ID

Postby RustyGunz1960 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:53 am

Common names often result in confusion. That's why folks who are biologists, naturalists, etc., often use the scientific or Latin name. That said, the most commonly used field guides tend to use consistent common names, in the case of birds at least. That may not be true if your book is very old. There was a movement a few generations back to get away from raptor names based on one food item, such as sparrow hawk, duck hawk, fish hawk, etc., since those foods overlap among raptors. Now a fish hawk is an osprey, a duck hawk a peregrine falcon, a sparrow hawk a kestrel, and so on. Does seem to be a bit less confusing.
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