I don't have that in my spreadsheet for any shot material. Where did you get the pressure data and recipe? And what kind of shot is it? (I don't have lead loads, and I'm assuming some heavier than lead shot as you said HW in your topic, which is used for heavyweight i.e. heavier than lead...)

 

I'm with Dave, curious where the "recipe" came from. That said I'd use those cheddite hulls and TPS wads and run about 26.5 gns. of Lil' Gun under 382 gns. of HW13 #6's. Devastating load easily to 40 yards and well within pressures.

 

Hey guys thanks for the replies.

I just did some searching on here and it popped up on an old thread.

https://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/v ... 4&t=192582

This is where I found it.

Obviously I forgot to add HS to the AA hull (I have no more compression formed hulks only HS )

Just wanted our thoughts on this.

Thanks guys.

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Wow digging up an old one with that load. I'll have to dig back in the notes but I believe that is missing a couple of things like wad slick, buffer and I think a Mylar wrap. It's an old load developed by a forum member here that I haven't seen post in years. I believe he developed that load back in 2007 ish if memory is correct...

I will tell you that the HV wad is not designed for HW shot but it can be made to work. You have a much higher risk of pin holes in the wad and a greater risk of bore scoring with the HV wad.

I have used the load with good success a long time a go but have moved on to TPS wads with cheddite and fiocchi hulls once the TPS wad came out. The TPS wad was actually developed for steel and HW shot and can handle the larger shot sizes like hw 4's for geese unlike the HV wad. The load as developed was for hevi shot in 6's and 7 1/2's.

Since you state you already have the need supplies, I would suggest you go with the TPS wads, euro hulls, and lilgun powder. They have proven to be very good reliable loads for the last few years now for many small bore shooters.

As a side note for fun and to mess with everyone's mind, I think I have some of his load data for Steel shot with the AAHS and HV wad that pushed 280 or 290 grains of shot to 1600+ FPS. The guy was for sure leading the way for nontox in the 28!!

 

Hamernhonkers,
Thanks for the reply. Yes sir, I deffinateky realize the hv wad is not for hw shot but I keep thinking with a Mylar wrap it would be fine. I load the tps wad with steel and tss a lot and I do agree and love the wad . I just have a pile of hv 28 , win aahs hulls and a couple pounds of h110 I would like to use up. Just kinda curious. Could you check on that for me by chance? I would be much appreciated. Feel free to pm if ya need too.

I'm just trying to find a use for some of those components and ya can't beat how a aahs hull loads up.

Thanks!

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interesting read guys.

I'm going to add this to my data points (few as they may be) for my 3" 28ga load development. I'm finding that this 110/296 data may just be the ticket as lil-gun seems to be giving up the ghost at 3/4oz of steel as far as velocity vs pressure is concerned. Having a hard time getting 7/8oz to get in the velocity zone. I'm seeing some good things with wad modifications and 300mp...I'm a long ways away from sending off for testing though

 

Myself I stick with tps wad with tungston shot in 28 gauge.

In 28 ga I have went to bismuth five shot perty much 95 percent time test time I am shooting five steel in 294 grain load using tps wad as well in that load .

In Dave's 3 inch venture I have loaded oz of bismuth fours with good results with rto finish. Shooting out of o/u 28 gauges ...

But have found that 7/8 and or 3/4oz bismuth is sweet spot for loads in 28 ga

 

Hamernhonkers,
Thanks for the reply. Yes sir, I deffinateky realize the hv wad is not for hw shot but I keep thinking with a Mylar wrap it would be fine. I load the tps wad with steel and tss a lot and I do agree and love the wad . I just have a pile of hv 28 , win aahs hulls and a couple pounds of h110 I would like to use up. Just kinda curious. Could you check on that for me by chance? I would be much appreciated. Feel free to pm if ya need too.

I'm just trying to find a use for some of those components and ya can't beat how a aahs hull loads up.

Thanks!

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Has there been any pattern testing? I loaded up 11 rounds to test out of my single shot 28 and OU. The single shot decided it only likes AA Hulls and brass. I'm also looking at possible options for LilGun, AA Hulls, HV28wads and HW13 or 15. I've done most of my loading with Lil Gun and Steel powder for steel, bismuth, ITX10 and hw15 in euro Hulls.

 

FWIW:

 

W/MOD tube:

 

I have some Fed HW15 #7 to load for ducks. Is this a published ITX 13 load, and have you tried a LM? It would work for a second shot in my Citori. thanks

 

No, haven't used a LM tube for it or any of the twenty gauges. Prefer MOD and tighter with these gauges. It's a load I worked up and has not been pressure tested. No signs of overpressure have been observed.

 

No, haven't used a LM tube for it or any of the twenty gauges. Prefer MOD and tighter with these gauges. It's a load I worked up and has not been pressure tested. No signs of overpressure have been observed.

Would you mind sharing the load data? I can load some up and get them tested. I have a good amount of hw15 on hand, HW13, bismuth, and steel.

With that HW13 load in Win AA Hulls (no Mylar) I have the results for pressure, velocity and patterning.

28" barrel, mod choke, pressure was 9001psi average, velocity was 1341fps average, patterned at 30yards with a fixed mod cheap single shot 28gauge 96% in a 30" circle. I can pattern a few more in some of my better 28's and see how other chokes May effect the pattern. I intend this to be used for youth season and early goose, ducks at close (20-30yards) range, and geese under 40yards.

 

interesting read guys.

I'm going to add this to my data points (few as they may be) for my 3" 28ga load development. I'm finding that this 110/296 data may just be the ticket as lil-gun seems to be giving up the ghost at 3/4oz of steel as far as velocity vs pressure is concerned. Having a hard time getting 7/8oz to get in the velocity zone. I'm seeing some good things with wad modifications and 300mp...I'm a long ways away from sending off for testing though

I'm also looking for other powder options, LilGun was on my radar, and In talking to guys who pressure test, it should be a workable load, Longshot was also mentioned as a possible option for consistent pressure build and colder weather. It was noted that the h110 load may lose steam (other ways to overcome that in the loading it's self) if hunted in below freezing temperatures.

 

Don't forget the Blue Dot.

 

Don't forget the Blue Dot.

I don't have blue dot, but I found a guy looking to sell what he has, or trade. He's looking for green dot.

 

I got bored and started to bench load some ideas based off of last years hunt

in the past years, I’ve shot hw15 and steel duplexes with hv28 wads, without issue.

I had the hv28 wad and 383gn hw13 load tested win WinAA hulls and h110 powder. Field tests and patterns are great for ducks and geese (hw13 6’s have killed geese)

I loaded up some variations to pattern and field test:
WinAA hull
Win 209
30gn h110
Hv28
5gn crushed walnut shells under shot
300gn HW15 7’s
60gn Steel 2’s
5gn walnut over shot for volume
Fold crimp

I did the a similar load with hw15 6’s/steel 2’s:
WinAA
Win209
30gn h110
Hv28
5gn crushed walnut under shot
285gn hw15 6’s
55gn steel 2’s
5gn crushed walnut over shot
Fold crimp

hope to be able to pattern them next week

 

I got bored and started to bench load some ideas based off of last years hunt

in the past years, I’ve shot hw15 and steel duplexes with hv28 wads, without issue.

I had the hv28 wad and 383gn hw13 load tested win WinAA hulls and h110 powder. Field tests and patterns are great for ducks and geese (hw13 6’s have killed geese)

I loaded up some variations to pattern and field test:
WinAA hull
Win 209
30gn h110
Hv28
5gn crushed walnut shells under shot
300gn HW15 7’s
60gn Steel 2’s
5gn walnut over shot for volume
Fold crimp

I did the a similar load with hw15 6’s/steel 2’s:
WinAA
Win209
30gn h110
Hv28
5gn crushed walnut under shot
285gn hw15 6’s
55gn steel 2’s
5gn crushed walnut over shot
Fold crimp

hope to be able to pattern them next week
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Interesting, are you using the crushed walnut shells as a filler here instead of a buffer?

 

Today’s pattern test

I also loaded some buffered 1 oz copper plated bi

 

3" bismuth?

 

The bismuth I loaded was 12gauge 2.75” B&P hulls with 29gn Longshot, CLBC wads and CSD078 wads, 15gn walnut buffer of 1oz copper bis 3’s; and a warchief copy of 2.75” Cheddite hulls, 27gn Longshot, mg42 wad, 1.25oz of copper plated bis 3’s and 15gn walnut buffer. The CSD and CLBC wads both performed very well. Over the years, I’ve shot a variety of payloads with the mg42; all are good options for 2.75” loading.

early goose starts Friday. I have a variety of loads to “test” on live geese for 12 and 28gauge. I’m more leaning to the 28, for fun; I know what the 12gauge will do. Those 1oz 12gauge loads were more geared for my kid to use.