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Jrock,
My father is a Marine and my brother in law went to Berkeley and is a huge Democrat. When I read this I was so pissed off I had to have a fresh cold beer to calm down. I say we cut off all funding or just put out dynamite and blow the city of San Francisco into the sea. This way all those idiots can live on a nice little island with no military to save them!!! :mad:
 

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Some schools in California also wanted to ban military recruitment from their campus. That idea was tossed when the feds said they were going to cut funding. Liberals sleep very well under the covers of freedom the marines provide them. I don't know why the ageing hippy, communists and their offspring are all drawn to San Fransisco, Berkley and Califonia's universities. What if all of America adopted their policies? We would be sitting ducks.
 

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That line of pansies stretches up the I-5 corridor all the way to Seattle. I wish the whole thing would fall of into the ocean.
 

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jrockncash said:
That line of pansies stretches up the I-5 corridor all the way to Seattle. I wish the whole thing would fall of into the ocean.
That would be fine with me. I have a boat. :biggrin:

You should also spell the city's name correctly -- the maps all have it wrong.

It's "Berserkley."
 

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Read the thread and the links and I think you should be up to date if not post up again and I will do my best.
 

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[This is from an email I received. It gives an "on the ground" view of the situration.] Tom*
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Most of you don't know me but rest assured, I'm as pissed off as the rest of you by the idiots. My father, Captain Judson J. Bradway, USMC was killed in action in Korea. My friend Paul is very active with the NRA and other patriotic activities. He attended a counter-demonstration put on by Move America Forward and sent this after-action report. It's long but worth the time.
Don
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Hi Folks,

Mary and I spent Tuesday hanging out with Melanie Morgan and friends in Berkeley in support of our U.S. Marines. We got there a little after 10:00 am, did the flag waving thing until a little after 1:30 and then split to grab some lunch at Mexicali Rose in downtown Oakland. After lunch we went back to Berkeley and stayed until my legs gave out at 6:00.

God forgive me, but I'd forgotten just how stupid liberals really are. Not to mention that most of them are unwashed, unkempt and really, really rude.

However, the number and quality of people that showed up to slap down Berkeley and its City Council idiots heartened me no end. There's much hope for this country yet.

Medea Benjamin and her Code Pink cohorts had a permit to assemble on the lawn in front of Berkeley's City Hall. We had a permit to assemble in the park directly across the street. Berkeley deployed approximately 100 cops to supposedly keep order, maintain civility and keep the two camps apart.

Benjamin's Bozos started assembling per plan on Monday night. Not being smart enough to realize that it's much more comfortable sleeping in one's own bed, they opted to camp out on the City Hall lawn. Then again, it might just be possible that the lawn was cleaner and more comfortable than their homes.

Melanie and her troops arrived at the park at 5:30 Tuesday morning to find that Benjamin's people had crossed the street to co-opt our assigned space. Something of a shoving match ensued as our standard-bearers had to physically push the Code Pinkos back across the street.

This was just another example of the left's casual disregard for boundaries, property rights and the rule of law.

With one exception, from the time Mary and I got there until the time we left we outnumbered the Code Pinkos by a fair margin. People were coming and going all day, but I'd say that on the average we outnumbered the lefties by at least two-to-one and at times three-to-one.

The exception was when a very large group of Berkeley High students showed up with their handlers around 11:30. They were wearing matching black T-shirts and bright orange bandannas and were carrying professionally printed signs. The clothing and signs were provided by some group called World Can't Wait, an organization that seems to be much like International A.N.S.W.E.R. and, like A.N.S.W.E.R., is also most probably a communist front.

These kids were so brainwashed that it was scary. Shortly after assembling on the corner on the City Hall side of the street, they were herded across the street to harass us. As the cops stood idly by, they massed in formation and started chanting obscenities. Their routine was obviously well rehearsed, and they were being directed by someone with a bullhorn. When that didn't work as well as they expected, they broke into smaller groups and tried to face off with individual people. They also tried to damage our audio system: they attempted to knock over our loudspeakers and yank out the equipment's cables. Although we stymied their efforts, the cops ignored them for the most part and let them do their shtick, even though we asked them repeatedly to control the kids and remove them back to their side of the street. It wasn't until some of the kids tried to get physical that the cops finally interfered. Then the cops did what they would do repeatedly during the day when the Pinkos tried to get in our faces: they'd herd us back and out of the way, giving the nut cases more room to act out.

It wasn't until some of the kids actually attacked someone, something that I didn't actually see, that the cops moved in on them. Two kids, one 13 and the other 15, got their stupid butts arrested. The cops were not gentle when they took the kids down and wrestled them to the ground.

It should please you no end to know that this is how your property taxes are spent here: brainwashing ignorant children. These students obviously had the school's permission to miss classes that day. The school also allowed Code Pink and World Can't Wait repeated access to them during school hours and on school property. The school also condoned the studied use of profanity by the students at their handlers' direction.

The students' main "chaperones" were three big, mean-looking black men and one skinny, dour-faced white fellow. All four tried to fade into the background, but I managed to buttonhole one of the black guys and ask him if he was responsible for these kids' attitudes. He actually had the grace to look embarrassed. I then asked if the kids shouldn't be in school trying to get the education we taxpayers were funding. He refused to answer and walked away.

The cops were overwhelmingly protective of the scabrous left-wingers even as they herded us around. They refused to react to multiple reports of leftist aggression and only moved when the confrontations, the vast majority initiated by the lefties, got out of hand.

Most of the kids left around 1:30, but quite a few stuck around until evening. Most of them hung out on our side of the street, since the park was much more attractive then the lawn in front of City Hall. We let them stay and even shared our food and water with them.

Around 4:30 Melanie Morgan announced that seating in the City Council meeting was very limited, and speakers would be restricted to no more than 50 per side. Those wishing to attend and speak needed to sign up now and move over to the area just outside the City Hall steps to wait for the doors to open.

Both groups comingled while signing up to speak and then again while waiting in front of City Hall. I did not cross the street for a close look, but from where we were things seemed to be reasonably civil.

However, that displaced the Code Pinkos that were not attending the meeting, and they moved into the street and started drifting over to our side. Our folks countered by also moving into the street to keep them away, prompting Berkeley's Finest to set up a conga line between the two camps.

Around 5:00 one of the highlights of the day occurred. A bunch of young girls, apparently Berkeley High students, that were lined up on the other side of the cops immediately in front of us got tired of hurling invective and started singing touchy-feely songs. With their arms around each other they swayed side to side while soulfully intoning Kum-Bah-Yah type nonsense. A dowdy 60ish woman in a T-shirt with multi-cultural statements led the effort, and she had the most simpering beatific look plastered on her face as she sang.

Led by one of our people with a bullhorn, we would occasionally break into the Marine Corps Hymn and drown the girls out. However, by then we were mostly enjoying ourselves by getting to meet and talk to each other.

As the sun started to set I realized that my elderly legs were shot and that walking back to the car was going to be a problem. Mary and I regretfully furled our flag and said our goodbyes.

I don't normally associate with radical leftists, so this was an unusual experience that left me with several insights.

Interacting up front and personal with the Code Pinkos and their allies was an abrupt reminder of just how nasty these people are. To quote one of their own favorite sayings, they are the personification of "mean-spirited". Dialog isn't possible; there's no room for dissent. You're either with them or you're evil.

Their hatred was palpable.

Even more disturbing is their willingness to poison their own children's minds. Many women were there with young children, and the children were wearing and carrying slogans that children shouldn't be exposed to. Children also shouldn't be subjected to the vitriol their elders spewed that day.

This is not to say that some of our people didn't respond in kind. However, it was very obvious that our anger was limited to a few people that had had enough of the constant left-wing in-your-face aggression.

Startling also was the extent that the local school system will engage in to fuel its political agenda. To them, students aren't young people that need to be nurtured and brought to maturity, they're pawns to be used as needed. There's not much difference between the left that uses children as political agents and the Islam that uses children and the mentally deficient to carry bombs to targets.

Lastly, it was obvious that the city's power structure had instructed its police to give great latitude to Medea Benjamin's minions while keeping us in line. I don't think that this sat well with a number of individual officers, but they were enjoined from speaking to us.

Of interest also was just how poorly trained and equipped the local police department is. I'm used to a certain spit-and-polish in law enforcement, much like if not as rigorous as that inherent in our military. Berkeley's cops were fairly sloppy, wearing wrinkled and ill-fitting uniforms and carrying mismatched gear. Many, although young, were not in the best of physical shape. Although mostly polite, they did not seem comfortable dealing with people under this kind of pressure and they certainly weren't well versed in setting up riot control lines.

The Code Pinkers and Co. were an eclectic bunch. One man wore a dress, many sported dreadlocks or other types of filthy hairdos and most were just plain scruffy. Their group was composed of a mix of leftover 60s radicals and brainwashed youth. Their discourse consisted mostly of invective and profanity. They seemed often confused as to just what the issue was that we were assembled for. On at least one occasion I smelled the cloying scent of weed wafting out of their crowd.

In contrast, our group consisted of a cross-section of normal America. There were men and women of all ages; people rightfully concerned with our national cultural decline. There were veterans of many wars, from Korea to the current Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts. A large contingent of a Vietnam veterans' bikers' club showed up early on and stayed for the day. There were relatives of active military members and there were college students and teenagers. Most were well dressed, quiet and cooperative. Most impressive to me were the students, both college and high school, that came to stand with us and offer their support. They were well-spoken and courteous. What a difference between them and the idiots Berkeley High incubated.

It became quickly apparent that the left wanted to make this a referendum on President Bush, the war in Iraq and American culture in general. They completely lost sight of the fact that this was really a statement about Berkeley and the morons that govern it. This was not about free speech or the merits of this administration's efforts to defend our country, it was about the mortal insult that Berkeley handed to America and the Marines, soldiers, sailors and airmen that live and die to protect it.

When the dust finally settled in the early morning hours, the Berkeley City Council had begrudgingly decided to backtrack on its horrendous letter to the U.S. Marine Corps. But it would not budge in its decision to grant Medea Benjamin preferential treatment in her ongoing attack on Berkeley's Marine recruiters.

Some people are just too stupid to learn.

Semper Fi from an old sailor.

Paul

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BERKELEY, Calif. Local officials in this liberal city say it's time for the U.S. Marines to move out.
The City Council has voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests."
The measure passed this week by a vote of 8-1.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327347,00.html
Contact the city council at Berkeley, CA via email: [email protected]

Now check this out, here is a letter a businessman wrote to the Mayor of Berkeley.
Is this a great country or what?

Dear Mayor Bates,
In that you and your city have chosen to gravely insult the brave men and women, who have indeed bought you that right with their blood, I am informing you that my company will no longer do business with any of our current suppliers located in the Berkeley,California metro area.
In that my company is in international resort real estate development, and do business with and am associated with, developers and investors worldwide, I am informing all of my contacts, associates and patrons that we will no longer do any business of any sort with anyone living in the Berkeley area.
In that we/MDG Resorts are currently building a state of the art mega-yacht marina, all of the suppliers of Marina equipment, all owners of Yachts , all suppliers of Yacht materials & supplies, all yacht brokers and all tangential yacht business purveyors will likewise be informed that we will not do any business whatsoever with anyone from the Berkeley area.
Likewise all suppliers of building materials, both interior and exterior, currently associated with any of our several resort developments (Brisamar 300+ villas and 200+ condos: Porto Hussong, www.portohussong.com 500+ condos, 180 slip mega-yacht marina) both of which I might add have international recognition by virtue of glowing reports in Robb Report, Wall Street Journal, Yacht World, Forbes.
I will likewise inform all of our investors, most of whom are very wealthy yacht owners, casino owners, high net worth international businessmen, of our decision to essentially boycott all products and providers located in, or associated with in any way whatsoever,Berkeley, Ca.
Trust me when I say that having been in the real estate development business for over 35 years, our list of contacts and associates is long and very, very impressive. We, and I personally, are going to recomend that they ALL along with us boycott your city, its purveyors, suppliers, and businesses and CHARITIES of every kind.
You have every right to choose to take the obnoxious anti-military stance you have taken, and as stated, that right was bought for you with the blood of better men than you.
I too have every right to do all that I can to insure that your city suffers consequences arising from that obnoxious, sickening stance.
Cordially,
Brian G Dennard
PrincipalDirector
Meridian Development Group, LLC
619 807 2444
www.mdgresorts.com
www.portohussong.com
 

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A copy of the letter I just sent to that Link.

I am writting today because I have seen what the council in Berkeley has recently said and done and am compelled to write. Your decision to tell the recruiters to move out is uterly disgusting. You people are the lowest form of scum on the planet. I am not a prominent buisness man that can effect your city finacially but I will remember. I hope your city suffers so terrible that you all lose your jobs and your "Fancy" lifestyles. I hope that your children grow up to realize that there parents are cowards and scum and that they disown the very Idea of you being related to them.

Great, I say again, GREAT men have died in this war and others to give you the right to act like Left wing morons but by spitting in their face like you have tarnished their memory. In closing there are no words to describe the way myself and others feel about you putrid scumbags but know this I WILL NOT FORGET.
 

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jrockncash said:
That line of pansies stretches up the I-5 corridor all the way to Seattle. I wish the whole thing would fall of into the ocean.
hey, wait a minute.. thats the greatest duck/goose hunting
spot in the state along I-5 sac......
not to mention the best surf spot on the west cost....
I live in ca, OK, you can stop laughing.....lol
and I too would love to the see all the tree hugging,
otter saving, whale freak, land for open space, eco nuts,
autobahn sickos, sierra club natzies and the whole berkley
were choosing communism over freedom fall off the face of
the earth too...... I'm sickened to have to say I'm in the same
state as them, my only saving grace is I still get to hunt and fish
and live right next to the ocean and this is my playground which
I will never give up.......

 

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Cannon Fodder
 

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Jrock, my message was meant for Tom until he clarified his statement. My father is a Marine and I have read this story a couple times, just to get pissed off more every single time I read it!!
 

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Gotcha
 

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I concider myself a typical american male. Unlike a lot of folks, raised in the country in rural OKLA and very proud of my country. None of us are perfect, it's been a while since anybody has walked on water but I think in general our country tries to do what is right.
Seems we are all to often called to be the policemen of the world, then we are ostrisized for doing such. Of course we have our faults and lots of people are quick to point this out not realizing that the "policing" american military do is the one thing that gives us the right and ability to turn about and critisize. In most other countries you'd be in big trouble if you as so much point a finger at the military or government.
The Berkley government should be ashamed to call themselves american citizens for abusing the right given to them by our men and women that protect and keep our liberty and freedom.
AND then to turn around and not maintain their position due to possible financial withholdings is so hypocritical I can't even begin to understand why they even tried to have an opinion in the first place!
Right or wrong you'd think they would stand for what they believe in. Not to stand up for what they started is mind boggling.
I believe they are very wrong in their opinions but that is just my own personal opinion.

I'm a conservitive and proud of it. I believe in our constitution and right or wrong I stand behind our government. I vote, I vote often and I'm bipartisan.
and last but not least..................
I support our military and I'm d*** proud of the job they do!

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HowIdo said:
Jrock,
I say we cut off all funding or just put out dynamite and blow the city of San Francisco into the sea. :
Just San Fran? How about all of CA? There was some school that flew the Mexican flag over the American one in a protest.

All I have to say is screw Berkley and California (except the military bases of course). If you want to know what else I have to say see the second part of my post on Obama.
 

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I'll bring the beer :cheers:
 

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Is there testosterone in the water where you guys live, are you mentally challenged, or do you just have no clue what our country really stands for?... in the beginning at least.

I'm not here to defend Berekley or anyone else, but didn't the founders believe, and make a point of it, that we are each entitled to our opinions, especially unpopular or uninformed ones, so long as they do us no harm? Where's the harm in the city council announcing to the world they're not too bright. Outrageous--yes, materially harmful--no.

The best thing to have done was simply shake your head, laugh at them and then ignore them. Why should school or road funding be revoked? To punish the children; the drivers. Ready, Fire, Aim!

BTW: I don't really care for the idea of recruiters taking advantage of young H.S. kids who haven't fully developed their thinking caps yet, may be economically disadvantaged and therefore easier to "sign up," for the sake of W's stupidity on Iraq. There are better reasons to sign up, but saber rattling and economic hegemony are not the right ones.

Afghanistan was/is different. They're the pinheads who helped attack us along with Al Queda. If we'd stayed on task in that theatre perhaps the Taliban wouldn't be re-surging, the Pakistani frontier might be a bit more under control, and our toops and treasure wouldn't be so depleted.

We get the presidents we deserve, and it becomes crystal clear why whenever I read the drivel you guys write. Do any of you know why we really invaded Iraq and or have an idea why the Berkeley city council reacted in the stupid way they did? Doubt it.
 
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