Hard to mess up w/ a chessie regardless. . .phillipstd said:one of the best ones, carrol anderson, she lives in illinois, I think I might buy a dog from her if she breads the right ones, she has a website, caroway kennels , www.caroway.com she has produced allot of the top hunting dogs in this breed and you can buy from her with confidence.
Well, you do bring a very good point to the table - and it's true - if you don't know the breed or have a natural inclination to the mind-set of the breed - I wouldn't 'experiment" with your first pick of dog breed being a chessie. . . However, if you've done your homework and want an intelligent challenge and a warrior - you get what you get!!!! Be it Lab or be it Water Collie or better yet, a Jack Russel. . . I've been lucky, but then I'm a hard-headed strong willed, ALPHA kind of guy - perform or perrish. . . (that means - don't crap on my carpet in between hunting trips and, if you get my ducks - I'm happy) Chessies can be nasty to deal with unless you can get into their heads.superxgooseslayer said:Please read up on Chessies before you purchase one. I have bred and hunted with Chessies for about 10 years now and they are a breed apart from Labs. They are very stubborn and hard to train. Once you get them trained they are hard to beat. They require ALOT of training and attention. They are very possesive and emotional dogs. I cant stress this enough.Most of the people that buy Chessies from me are dissappointed with them because they cant train them. I stress to them what is required to raise Chessies and they always say........I got it, but they dont.
BULLSheite. . . Lets talk pedigrees of the poor and the rich = if you are comparing - we will discuss it.Rick Hall said:If I had a Chessie as tough to deal with as you guys seem to suggest, I'd sure not breed it. Well bred Chessies have been no more problematic than any of the other breeds I've owned.
Poorly bred Chesapeakes are another matter.
so are poorly bred Americans. . .[Poorly bred Chesapeakes are another matter.]
Sounds like you should find another line of Chesapeakes to go with. I don't think your breedings are helping the breed if you are having all these issues with your dogs. Your comments could not be farther from the truth with my dogs and most Chesapeakes in general.superxgooseslayer said:Please read up on Chessies before you purchase one. I have bred and hunted with Chessies for about 10 years now and they are a breed apart from Labs. They are very stubborn and hard to train. Once you get them trained they are hard to beat. They require ALOT of training and attention. They are very possesive and emotional dogs. I cant stress this enough.Most of the people that buy Chessies from me are dissappointed with them because they cant train them. I stress to them what is required to raise Chessies and they always say........I got it, but they dont.
Perhaps that seemed to make some sense after a toddy or three, but it's lost on me.MacMan said:BULLSheite. . . Lets talk pedigrees of the poor and the rich = if you are comparing - we will discuss it.Rick Hall said:If I had a Chessie as tough to deal with as you guys seem to suggest, I'd sure not breed it. Well bred Chessies have been no more problematic than any of the other breeds I've owned.
Poorly bred Chesapeakes are another matter.
so are poorly bred Americans. . .[Poorly bred Chesapeakes are another matter.]
. . .another matter.
:ditto:Perhaps that seemed to make some sense after a toddy or three, but it's lost on me.
Yep Rick, you hit it - big family football party GA vs. LSU over here in GA. . . BUT, my point was - show me these high dollar pedigrees of the chessie's that you've owned that were worthless. . . That's all!! You've certainly shared more than once of your disdain with many of the pups.rptrainer said::ditto:Perhaps that seemed to make some sense after a toddy or three, but it's lost on me.
Owners of these dogs seem to be a breed apart also…If they don't get the bull headed aggressive dog they get rid of it or think they wasted there money..The true owners and breeders that truly understand them and try to breed great dogs are a pleasure to learn from…I agree with what was said above if you never had one never worked one never trained one and think a Chessie is the only dog to break the ice hunt all day or swim in the sea or whatever get a lab…two of the kennels that were mentioned I have trained some great dogs out of … BUT You better have a qualified trainer near by to help you…When a owner brings a Chessie to me I look at the human more than the dog…They determine whether I take the dog or not….For obvious reasons…
I've never owned a "stubborn" or "hard to train" Chesapeake, much less a "worthless" one - or claimed to. So you're still not making sense.MacMan said:[Yep Rick, you hit it - big family football party GA vs. LSU over here in GA. . . BUT, my point was - show me these high dollar pedigrees of the chessie's that you've owned that were worthless. . . That's all!!
My disdain is for the get of dogs that shouldn't have been bred - "stubborn" or "hard to train" dogs, being handy examples. I've made a point of purchasing biddable stock and strongly recommend others do, too.You've certainly shared more than once of your disdain with many of the pups.
buckmeister said:I tbink Ricks point is good breeding is based on outcomes not pedigree, if you have dogs that people cant train then they are not well bred, if you take two trainable Chesssies with good desire that have no great pedigree that is still a good breading, two chessies that are bred with great pedigrees, but sire and dam are difficult to train and so are the pups then that is a bad breeding regardless of how many AFC and MH designations are on the papers.
I hope you are not still breeding that line of chessies.superxgooseslayer said:Please read up on Chessies before you purchase one. I have bred and hunted with Chessies for about 10 years now and they are a breed apart from Labs. They are very stubborn and hard to train. Once you get them trained they are hard to beat. They require ALOT of training and attention. They are very possesive and emotional dogs. I cant stress this enough.Most of the people that buy Chessies from me are dissappointed with them because they cant train them. I stress to them what is required to raise Chessies and they always say........I got it, but they dont.
why?jtowne said:I hope you are not still breeding that line of chessies.superxgooseslayer said:Please read up on Chessies before you purchase one. I have bred and hunted with Chessies for about 10 years now and they are a breed apart from Labs. They are very stubborn and hard to train. Once you get them trained they are hard to beat. They require ALOT of training and attention. They are very possesive and emotional dogs. I cant stress this enough.Most of the people that buy Chessies from me are dissappointed with them because they cant train them. I stress to them what is required to raise Chessies and they always say........I got it, but they dont.