[SouthernWingsAssaultTeam]

What call are you using? The right call should be where you have both good hails , feeds , and ducks. The only problems i could think would be caller error , not being experience in tuning calls , or a call that doesnt have what it takes. If the call is one of the top names I would look into the other two examples and you can probably work it out

 

[BDK]

A MVP I can get it to do it all, I retuned it sounds better but still not 100% I feel . When you tune how do you go about it . Whats a good way to get started comp calling. Don't know anyone that competes . So not quiet sure, iv been to some contests the world once and some smaller ones

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[mayhem96]

As far as tuning, trial and error is a big part. Each call is different. Here is a good instructional on tuning duck calls...

As far as getting started, PM me and I can help you out with what I know. A good source to look at is callingducks.com :thumbsup:

 

[BDK]

Yea thats how I tune all my calls. Doin it for some time now . But for a comp you probably wouldnt want as much rasp right

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[mayhem96]

It just depends. The big thing is to have duck and you don't want the call to sound thin.

 

[BDK]

Yea iv noticed sometimes it sounds kinda tin like , sort of like the reed is popping or somthing . That maybe due to needing a new reed im not sure if you could even here that from a distance

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[Trevor Shannahan]

Yea thats how I tune all my calls. Doin it for some time now . But for a comp you probably wouldnt want as much rasp right

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You want rasp, but not shatter

 

[wanapasaki]

How many of you guys actually hear ducks that chuckle like most people tend to do? I hear mallards all the time because I have 100 or so living by my house, and pintails do the same when they fly over head chasing each other, but nothing ever so rapid. I think if a duck is close enough to hear a feed chuckle its time to shoot. Just IMO

 

[SouthernWingsAssaultTeam]

Well everybody has there diiferent ways to call ducks in the woods. There is a million ways and theories to work ducks. But in Comp calling its not anything you would do in the field , its displaying how well you can control and master a call. So alot if the calls in Comp are exagerated.

 

[Timheff]

Phil Robertson once said that he doesn't think a duck could win a duck calling contest. I always thought that was a pretty good summary of them.

couldn't agree more

 

[muddyfoot]

Could someone please explain call set up? Like what is the difference between a heavy tuned vs light tuned call? Also, where do the manufacturers generally tune their calls as far as set up? For instance, I am overpowering my MVP and having a hard time backing off enough to maintain a long hail. Would I benefit from a "heavier" tuned call? Thanks.

Sounds like it's not how heavy or light the call is set up, but more so how you are controlling your air flow into the call.
Try filling your gut with air and learn how to control the flow of what comes up and through your diaphragm turning that into hot air and don't push but pop the air.

 

[CutEmMS]

a duck may not win a competition but adding the competitive element to any task you attempt will improve your performance

most competition callers are able to squeeze every ounce of potential performance out of a call...which can be a good skill to possess when in the field

now, learning to read birds and use your skills effectively in the field is another thing...no matter how much you learn form imitating great call clips on youtube or practicing in your garage, this type of practice will not make you more proficient at figuring out what the birds want to hear and what will help pull them into range

this is something only time in the field will earn you.

personally, i see competition calling as a great way to hone your skills...so a sticky for pointers/advice should be a good addition to the forum

I cant disagree with your post. But what I have learned from watching the Duck Commander is that if you know WHEN to call, you really dont need the full range that a call is capable of. A few quacks or a drake whistle at the proper time will let you kill ducks.

Question: if the duck commander told you that the best way to attract ducks was to jump in the lake with your waders on and say "quack, quack, quack!"....would you do it? Phil Robertson isn't the duck god.....Jesus Christ...I'm so sick of hearing people say," well Phil Robertson says this" or "on Duck Commander they did this." :no:

 

[muddyfoot]

I agree, I just laugh when I hear people say.., or should I say "quote" what DC has said about comp calling.
I think he's a good man and nothing against him personally, but his feelings must have really got hurt when them Arkansas boys told him,his call would never win a worlds duck calling contest back in the day!

But what Phil and everyone else needs to know is Comp calling, "Main Street" style is not about the ducks and never will be!
It's about Performance of the call, it's so much that goes into it that you need a whole nother level of teaching and style in the since of Main Street.

So I, just like others have come to realize that many are called to the Waterfowl world but only a few are chosen to the Comp world.

 

[CutEmMS]

I agree, I just laugh when I hear people say.., or should I say "quote" what DC has said about comp calling.
I think he's a good man and nothing against him personally, but his feelings must have really got hurt when them Arkansas boys told him,his call would never win a worlds duck calling contest back in the day!

But what Phil and everyone else needs to know is Comp calling, "Main Street" style is not about the ducks and never will be!
It's about Performance of the call, it's so much that goes into it that you need a whole nother level of teaching and style in the since of Main Street.

So I, just like others have come to realize that many are called to the Waterfowl world but only a few are chosen to the Comp world.

Agreed :beer:

 

[mattk22250]

Does anybody here use a Foiles mean street for their comp call?

 

[aunt betty]

Could someone please explain call set up? Like what is the difference between a heavy tuned vs light tuned call? Also, where do the manufacturers generally tune their calls as far as set up? For instance, I am overpowering my MVP and having a hard time backing off enough to maintain a long hail. Would I benefit from a "heavier" tuned call? Thanks.

Sounds like it's not how heavy or light the call is set up, but more so how you are controlling your air flow into the call.
Try filling your gut with air and learn how to control the flow of what comes up and through your diaphragm turning that into hot air and don't push but pop the air.

Just a guess but it sounds like two reed to one reed transition problem.
Two reed users tend to REALLY push a call hard and every single reed they pick up has issues.
Saying this because the top of the line MVP is hard to imagine being tuned so poorly at butch's shop that its impossible to use. Every MVP anyone has ever handed me was sweetness.

It took me years to transition and I gave up at least twice.
Its TOUGH breaking the bad habits that a two reed call allows you to get away with.

 

[marsh water]

Trevors routine is great. I used to have 32 to 34 notes on the highball. I did count. One thing, John Fox, a TV personality from the 70s and 80s won a bunch of competitions. Most judges look for something out of the norm to stand out from the crowd. Instead of the tika tika tika feel chatter, he did like a lot of us did and listened to ducks. I used to go to the duck lakes and small zoo around my home and just sit for hours listening to ducks. I know everyone has heard it, but sitting ducks say more of a paduka, paduka. The tika comes from ducks flying over. John started using that and won. The fast rolling tika feed call with a few quacks thrown in sounds so good that when you get it down, its just got to be thrown in. One of Chic Majors sons in law Eddie Holt couldnt be beat at call contests. He was a large heavy man, according to Don Cahil, but couldnt call ducks for beans. And Phil Robertson has some of the most prime duck marsh in La. He also has duck spotters that watch for ducks way up from their blinds and let them know when flights are on their way so they can get ready. Hunting for the camera is way different than hunting cold. If that is how you make your living you use every trick you can think of. I've said it before, I hunted with cajun's for several yrs that used to go to our contests and laugh at the callers. They all hunted with olt d2's cut down. I kept my call in my pocket the first yr. They threatened my life if I tried to use my call routine in the duck blind. Took me awhile, but they taught me to call ducks instead of judges. But a guy that can win contests and call ducks too is a great guy to get to know. The contests are like retriever trials, they may not be great meat dogs, but the foundation they have poured set the mark for great duck dogs. Some trial dogs are too high powered to sit. The quest for good comp calls has made the meat calls way better. Chicks calls broke pretty bad under pressure. You had to know the breaking point. Most older calls did. Butch Richenbach, Rnt, Echo, Betts and the rest have calls that are very hard if not impossible to break. And I've tried. Good for us.

 

[Wisconsin Flyway]

I am reading your posts about calling competitions and have a different problem. My son is interested in getting into competitions. We live in central Wisconsin and cannot seem to find a competition or even a place to look/person to ask to find one. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[stumpjumper]

Callingducks.com

 

[ByersFarm]

Digging up an oldie here.