before i got my "duck sled" with the mud buddy. i used to use my fiberglass trout skiff in the timber. it sucked when you got into pinoak flats or mud. i would atleast go through one water pump a year. but with that four stroke.....i could turn it on when ducks were working and the and make those birds wiggle pretty good and the ducks would never hear it. the mud buddy isn't so good for that application.