For You Scattergun Gentlemen

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Dep6

Discussion Starter · 21 d ago

I am getting of age, yeah ain't we all, and some times my shoulders let me know this fact, a bi-cep tear in 2018 will do that to you it seems. I have been eyeballing the CZ brand of of shotguns, mostly for their O/U's, I just like the looks of them. I am really thinking about dropping to a 20 gauge instead of going with a 12 just because of my shoulder, more than anything. Mainly I been looking at the All Terrain series because they come cerra-koted. So now let hear the yeah's and nay's please.

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Baymen Moe

· #2 · 21 d ago

Why the hell not. I’m 57 and switched to 20ga last season when I found that beautiful 1972 Browning Auto 5. I also have two other 20’s to play with. A Dickinson sxs and an 11-87. They’re light and all shoot nicely. Feeding them #4 bismuth for everything inside 35yds. Go for it! As I age quality counts and I look at it like you only live once.

HNTFSH

· #3 · 21 d ago

Dep - most people like 'em. I think 20ga better than 12 since they tend to be a bit lighter in weight. Only thing I noticed when new was they were a b1itch to break open but perhaps a little time or process helps that. I've never purchased a NEW O/U so maybe it's a new thang or something.

5 stand

· #4 · 21 d ago

HNTFSH said:
I've never purchased a NEW O/U so maybe it's a new thang or something.

It is, if they're not hard to open beware...

tchandler2

· #5 · 21 d ago (Edited)

I don’t blame you for wanting the all terrain for the cerakote but I will say the Franchi instinct is one of the best 20ga o/u out there in my opinion. However the cerakote and the price on the cz would be very tempting.

HNTFSH

· #6 · 21 d ago

5 stand said:
It is, if they're not hard to open beware...

For some reason the CZ's and Franchi's seemed twice as stiff as a new Citori.

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5 stand

· #7 · 21 d ago

HNTFSH said:
For some reason the CZ's and Franchi's seemed twice as stiff as a new Citori.

That very well may be, I don't think I've ever opened a new CZ or Franchi... I don't see many on the sporting Clay courses... I'm sure they're there, just don't see them in the hands of the folks that I have been around...

Rick Hall

· #8 · 21 d ago

Water Plant Twig Grass Wood

"No accounting for taste," "the heart wants what the heart wants" and all that stuff. Buy the damn O/U that has your eye.

(Or do the sensible thing and get a gas op 20 that weighs a pound less and likely still has appreciably less felt recoil.)

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Dep6

Discussion Starter · #9 · 20 d ago

Thanks for the replies, I will let yall know what I do.

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3200 man

· #10 · 20 d ago

There is very little reduction of recoil with 20 ga guns , surely the gas guns do help but just remember ,
payload weight and velocity are the culprits and only gun fit and weight of the gun are , sure reducers
of recoil !
I would advise looking into a 28 ga in O/U'ers , be ready to load your own like us !

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Tate Rollins

· #11 · 20 d ago

3200 man said:
There is very little reduction of recoil with 20 ga guns , surely the gas guns do help but just remember ,
payload weight and velocity are the culprits and only gun fit and weight of the gun are , sure reducers
of recoil !
I would advise looking into a 28 ga in O/U'ers , be ready to load your own like us !

How are 28s in terms of payload?

Rick Hall

· #12 · 20 d ago

3200 man said:
There is very little reduction of recoil with 20 ga guns.

When I sacrifice my light little Montefeltro 20 to a guest with gun woes and dig out the clunky 870 12ga and 2 3/4" shells that live in my blind for such emergencies, that heavy fixed breech gun always seems to catch me by surprise with its additional recoil.

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ohio mike

· #13 · 20 d ago

Rick Hall said:
When I sacrifice my light little Montefeltro 20 to a guest with gun woes and dig out the clunky 870 12ga and 2 3/4" shells that live in my blind for such emergencies, that heavy fixed breech gun always seems to catch me by surprise with its additional recoil.

870's are not the most gentle thing to shoot.Even with 2 3/4" steel. A sub gauge semiauto especially a gas gun are way easier on old bones and young'ns .

5 stand

· #14 · 20 d ago

Yes sir, Ohio Mike the devil's always in the details, so Deb6...... We have eliminated the clunky 870 heavy fixed breech gun that stays in the blind for emergencies...

ohio mike

· #15 · 20 d ago

^^^^It's a shame too. They are a pretty nice O/U for being made in Turkey.🤪^^^^

3200 man

· #16 · 19 d ago

Tate Rollins said:
How are 28s in terms of payload?

Recoil is a product of payload weight and velocity so , with a 28's 3/4 oz payload ,verses , 20 ga's 7/8 oz
the 28 wins but don't get me wrong , Pattern Density always wins! There are plenty of non tox materials to
chose from , that can make the 28 shoot like a 10 ga , if you need it

3200 man

· #17 · 19 d ago

Rick Hall said:
When I sacrifice my light little Montefeltro 20 to a guest with gun woes and dig out the clunky 870 12ga and 2 3/4" shells that live in my blind for such emergencies, that heavy fixed breech gun always seems to catch me by surprise with its additional recoil.

The more years one has shooting different guns and loads , does show what our tolerance is for recoil ?
Any gun that is spring or gas activated slows down the reaction to recoil , but it's still there , with other
action types!

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HNTFSH

· #18 · 19 d ago

3200 man said:
The more years one has shooting different guns and loads , does show what our tolerance is for recoil ?
Any gun that is spring or gas activated slows down the reaction to recoil , but it's still there , with other
action types!

Not sure what age I'll recognize it to the point of even thinking about it. 99% of my shooting in the last 20 years has been .50 blackpowder, 12&16 ga O/U. Last recoil issue I recall thinking about was the .44 magnum Smith 35 years ago. Did cause a flinch.

Rick Hall

· #19 · 19 d ago

5 stand said:
Yes sir, Ohio Mike the devil's always in the details, so Deb6...... We have eliminated the clunky 870 heavy fixed breech gun that stays in the blind for emergencies...

Good plan.

Rick Hall

· #20 · 19 d ago

3200 man said:
Any gun that is spring or gas activated slows down the reaction to recoil , but it's still there , with other
action types!

Mighty thoughless of me not to have written "felt recoil".

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