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That is pretty weird going from one day not really knowing anything about hunting dogs and training and planning on getting a golden to the next day making a decision on a totally different breed of dog and purchasing one. This is something that a person should educate themselves about, become knowledgeable about , research breeders and then make a decision. I’m also curious as to what the OP calls “good hunting genes”. I hope this has a good outcome but I have my doubts.
 

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What was the scam?

BTW - it's long odds that the dog you'd want is available "today" or next week. Knowing what you want or need is the trick though. Like others have said or intimated, if you don't know what you're doing, take a step back. It's a commitment and being fair to yourself and the pup is pretty important.
 

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We were definitely rushing into it we are looking at a local breeder which is someone I actually know and their dogs. The scam was there was no puppy at all or anyone that showed up and the Facebook page got deleted looking back I should have known it was a scam but you live and learn
 

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I looked online for about 10 minutes (reckless abandoned) for current pricing and availability for a Cockapoo (for the wife) of which we've had several over they years. 1st ad I came upon they had several listed. Scrolling through I checked the profile of one. The pup came up priced at: $3,450.00.

LOL!!!!! :eek:
 

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What the heck is the rush to get a dog and breed you know nothing about and from a breeder you know nothing about. Has any thought or planning gone into this. Do you know anything about training or have you lined up a pro trainer? You realize the pup won’t be ready for this hunting season? Do you know anything about the local breeder other than he’s local? Do you know anything about pedigree and bloodlines? Do you know what to look for in a pup? Have you prepared your home and psyche for dog ownership? Do you know what to look for health wise and the parents health?
Am still curious your definition of “good hunting genes”. Rushing into something like this with little or no knowledge is just plain bad. And may end up being bad for the poor dog. Just my 2 cents worth.
 

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What the heck is the rush to get a dog and breed you know nothing about and from a breeder you know nothing about. Has any thought or planning gone into this. Do you know anything about training or have you lined up a pro trainer? You realize the pup won’t be ready for this hunting season? Do you know anything about the local breeder other than he’s local? Do you know anything about pedigree and bloodlines? Do you know what to look for in a pup? Have you prepared your home and psyche for dog ownership? Do you know what to look for health wise and the parents health?
Am still curious your definition of “good hunting genes”. Rushing into something like this with little or no knowledge is just plain bad. And may end up being bad for the poor dog. Just my 2 cents worth.
We already own a dog. I’m resurching more into this. I’m not exactly sure what to look for in a pup. The parents have health checks and the puppies come with a health check. I’m hoping to get a dog in the next two months because I get laid off due to working construction and would like as much time with it as possible
 

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We already own a dog. I’m resurching more into this. I’m not exactly sure what to look for in a pup. The parents have health checks and the puppies come with a health check. I’m hoping to get a dog in the next two months because I get laid off due to working construction and would like as much time with it as possible
So basically you know nothing about the litter? “Health checks” from a newspaper breeder means nothing. To me, if it says “health checks” but doesn’t mention EIC, CNM, etc then “health checks” listed on the add could be more of a red flag than comforting.

Why don’t we change the direction of this thread and instead answer your questions on what to look for as you research. There are lots of people on here who really know what they are talking about from pedigree and litter selection to training and everything in between. If you are looking at developing a competent waterfowl dog, I’d put low odds on success given how this conversation is going. Slow down, do it right. It’s a decade+ commitment. Don’t rush it.


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I looked online for about 10 minutes (reckless abandoned) for current pricing and availability for a Cockapoo (for the wife) of which we've had several over they years. 1st ad I came upon they had several listed. Scrolling through I checked the profile of one. The pup came up priced at: $3,450.00.

LOL!!!!! :eek:
Those are nice little dogs! I S hitzu not.
 

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So basically you know nothing about the litter? “Health checks” from a newspaper breeder means nothing. To me, if it says “health checks” but doesn’t mention EIC, CNM, etc then “health checks” listed on the add could be more of a red flag than comforting.

Why don’t we change the direction of this thread and instead answer your questions on what to look for as you research. There are lots of people on here who really know what they are talking about from pedigree and litter selection to training and everything in between. If you are looking at developing a competent waterfowl dog, I’d put low odds on success given how this conversation is going. Slow down, do it right. It’s a decade+ commitment. Don’t rush it.


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Like I said I don’t know what I’m looking for give me a list of questions to ask and things to look for
 

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What is your budget?

BTW - think an early suggestion was learning how to train a hunting retriever from the day it comes home forward. Probably need 4-6 months of learning through qualified books, DVD's, etc. You didn't comment on that, did it stick? Would also search for AKC or HRC Retriever Hunt Test Clubs that are in your area (within an hour). Can be a huge resource to you for $50.00 or less a year and full of people training working retrievers. Doesn't mean you need to run tests but your contribution back to the club is helping out at training days (an education worth getting). Go watch a test, you would likely love it and learn a LOT.

You can google all of this up. There's also a sticky at the top of the forum with a training guide list. You'll get one shot to train the best hunting dog you can. Knowledge is key, you can't fake a nice dog and it does take effort. But that carries on to every other dog past this one, it's a lifetime skill in owning a dog, even a pet.
 

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That’s a workable range. I haven’t been in the puppy market in a bit, and have no idea if there an inflationary hit on them like everything else but typically the $1,000 range is where you start getting what people on here would see as a good bloodline and real health certifications.

I’ll defer to the chessie specialists as to what particular things they look for compared to labs but I’d imagine it’s probably the same. Personally I buy based on the litter/ pedigree and look for two major table stakes up front.

Health: EIC, CNM, hips eyes and elbows cleared through x-ray, tests and pedigree. Any breeder worth their weight will have that.

Pedigree is tougher in that I don’t know you nor your ability to train. I like a very hard charging dog as I enjoy the fire and don’t mind reigning them back. As such my pedigree selection may be different but it aligns to both my training and hunting. To those who want a house/family dog that may pick up some simple marks but likely won’t train as far or hunt as much it would be too much dog for them. Can you elaborate a bit on what you are looking for in a dog and how much you realistically plan to train/ goals you have?


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