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I was thinking of going to heavi-shot buy but after today (sat Oct 8th opening day :duck) I began to wonder. I shot two birds at 60 yards and they came down breast first!! Both split wide open to the meat!! I like to BBQ my ducks, and these two I had to take the knife to. So why do I want to watch them drop from 70 - 75 yards up ??? How high do U want to shoot them??...Later Ed