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I Hate fedrals THERE WERE 3 OF US AND WE SHOT 9 TIMES AT THIS DUCK THAT WAS IN THE AIR AND HE WOULD GO DOWN BUT STAR FLYING AWAY and it never did kill him until er dog did
 

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Used them all this past season with great results, inside 35 yd. #4 1 1/8 had no problem with a couple honkers at 30 yd. Both dead before they hit the ground :thumbsup:
 

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3" have 1 1/4 loads at 1400fps and 1 1/8 loads at 1550fps.

Either are fine, but, my group is starting to like the 1 1/8 loads a little better. I'd use 3's or 4's with a Improved and you are great up to 35 to 40 yards. If you think most of your shots will be 35-45 yards throw in the modified and you'll be fine.

If you are going after geese I'd reccomend the BBs with a modified.
 

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YES THEY R I JUST USED them friday and I had a duck back peddelin at 25 yards the bead was right on him and I shot three times, reloadid and shot at him again and it didn't kill him. THAT JUST SUXS
 

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If you shot at a duck at 25 yards with a modified and didn't kill him. You missed - plain and simple. At 25 yards you have a very small pattern and even if they look like they are standing still.... they are moving and require you to aim in front of them.

I've personally killed over 200 ducks with these shells in the last 3 years. I dare say this is more than a bunch of people will kill in 10 years. I've killed ducks from 10 to 60+ yards with them. They will kill a duck! You have to do your part!

Shells are very often used as scapegoats. Most of the time it's the shooters error. It is often times because of to tight a choke (You probally have a 20 " pattern with your gun at 25 yards). Sometimes it is because of mis-judging the distance.

I shoot experts and I shoot hevishot. They are about the extremes in price. They both have their place. I have a feeling if people would spend more time at the skeet and sporting clays range they would be amazed at how their shells suddenly improve.
 

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Have you ever opened up a shell? Thanks for the advise on the trap range. I have patterned my gun many times with many different chokes and shoot lots of trap during the summer. The shells that I opened had square pellets in them, and some were 4s while others were BBs. Congrats on the 200 birds, but I can say that my 75+ birds this season have NOTHING to do with Xperts, you can keep the dirty burning crap. No gun deserves that poor of a shell!

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Yes I have opened up plenty of shells. I have not found a square pellet ever. The experts are not perfectly round. every pellet from an expert I've seen has a flat spot on it. I have not seen much of a difference in size.

The whole point is they are what they are. They are an inexpensive shell that uses cheaper shot than the more expensive shell. They are not guaranteed waterproof. They are $6.50 - $7.00 per box for 3" and $9.00 per box for 3 1/2". Kents are usually about $3 more and drylocks, nitros, or federals are more than that.

If you are only going to buy a couple boxes a year get the expensive stuff. If you are going to buy a couple of cases or more, the experts are a very good value. Just do not blame the shells when you do not kill a slam dunk shot. If you shoot at a duck within 30 yards with anything from 6's to t's even with a cylinder bore choke ---you center the duck ....the duck dies ....period. Is it possible for a duck to fly through a pattern - yes . Is it likely to happen under 30 yards? NO! Like I said the more you practice ....the better your shells get.
 
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