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i went through a case of em, number 2's this last season. no prob inside 35 yards. i also bought a case of wolf deuces, seemed like they worked ok. they patterned about the same. i use the steel in close, and hevi-shot further away. had no problems all season. i think estate shells are junk. ive seen the casing blow apart, get ripped apart while being extracted(a buddies autoloader), and seen shells right out of the box with bulges i them so bad in the sidewalls that they wouldnt load. if you want a cheap load, buy wolf brand.
 
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