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Most Versatile Components for Non-Tox Reloading

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Hi everyone, I am looking to get in to reloading and am looking for components (hulls, wads, powders, primers etc.) that will be versatile enough to reload bismuth, steel, and hevi shot through a lee load all II without issue. I am very new to reloading, so if a combo with the versatility I'm looking for doesn't exist forgive me. Also, if anyone could recommend their preferred non-tox reloading manuals it would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Before you buy any components get hold Ballistic Products Advantages Manual, Tom Roosters Advanced Lead and Bismuth manual.There are other manuals like the Lyman 5th Shotshell manual.Whichever manual you obtain read it from start to finish.Then search non-toxic, bismuth loads on here and the Shotgun World forum, there are are bunch of fantastic loads that members have provided on the two forums.I started off with a Lee Load All and they are a great entry level machine to learn on.I still have mine set up for one 20 ga load but I now use a Mec reloader as well to pump out more shells.If you go to Shotgun World Forum check out the discussion, " Starting out reloading " in Shotshell Reloading section that will get you rolling in the right direction.There's also a few YouTube videos on using the Lee Load All.Main thing is don't buy any components until your searched these two forums for guy's pet loads.As a Newby read through as many posts as possible in the reloading sections you'll soon work out who are the positive, successful members who will help you out.Good luck馃憤
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Most versatile loading is bismuth in 2.75鈥 hulls

Almost limitless combos, wads, powders, payloads from 7/8 - 1 3/8oz loads options

STS/AA hulls are the most available hulls in my area, but I like straight walled euro or Federal Hulls.

Steel, HTL, TSS will limit your powder choices, and specific wads, as well as toe the lines with increased pressure and speeds (most the time)

You can essentially do all of your loading, and may quickly move to a faster loader. But I mostly handload (weigh) all of my hunting loads in powder and shot. Make 15-25 at a time while waiting in the kids to get ready, laundry to finish, quiet down time.

Last year I ended up loading 7+ cases of hunt ammo and 5+ more cases of target ammo, out of the off season down time.
I load .410, 28, 12, and 10gauge and have a loader specific to target loads for .410-12, I鈥檒l use the mecs to make target loads and start the loading process for hunting loads. Creating your own hunting and target loads makes your shooting a whole lot more fun.

I鈥檝e gotten all of my mecs for less than $300 each
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Most versatile loading is bismuth in 2.75鈥 hulls

Almost limitless combos, wads, powders, payloads from 7/8 - 1 3/8oz loads options

STS/AA hulls are the most available hulls in my area, but I like straight walled euro or Federal Hulls.

Steel, HTL, TSS will limit your powder choices, and specific wads, as well as toe the lines with increased pressure and speeds (most the time)

You can essentially do all of your loading, and may quickly move to a faster loader. But I mostly handload (weigh) all of my hunting loads in powder and shot. Make 15-25 at a time while waiting in the kids to get ready, laundry to finish, quiet down time.

Last year I ended up loading 7+ cases of hunt ammo and 5+ more cases of target ammo, out of the off season down time.
I load .410, 28, 12, and 10gauge and have a loader specific to target loads for .410-12, I鈥檒l use the mecs to make target loads and start the loading process for hunting loads. Creating your own hunting and target loads makes your shooting a whole lot more fun.

I鈥檝e gotten all of my mecs for less than $300 each View attachment 478975
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When searching posts as a beginner, I would make sure any load listed had pressure stated.
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Agree with Dr Swane. With 2 3/4" 12 ga and bismuth, you should be able to handle all of your waterfowling needs with the right shot sizes/load weights/recipes. If Alliant Steel powder were available, I'd even say you could do very well with steel shot if you avoided long-range pass shooting (45 yards +).
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Agree with Dr Swane. With 2 3/4" 12 ga and bismuth, you should be able to handle all of your waterfowling needs with the right shot sizes/load weights/recipes. If Alliant Steel powder were available, I'd even say you could do very well with steel shot if you avoided long-range pass shooting (45 yards +).
I have done (with success) pass-shooting big ducks with steel shot as I prefered 1 3/8 oz of #1's in
my 10 ga loads ! These were loaded at 1620 fps and shot out of a .745 choke . I will say 45 yds was
a piece of cake but most of my shots were closer to 60 yds being +or- 10 degrees from straight-up
overhead .
Yes , Bismuth is easy to reload and at most killing distances just beyond the decoys , ducks and
Geese will die using the proper pellet size ! I prefer Longshot powder from 28 to 30 grs in 2 3/4"
straight walled hulls !
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