Marlin Firearms has come out with two new shotguns, a side x side and an o/u they are marketing under the LC Smith name for 2005. I went to my local gun shop, a distributor for Marlin, to inquire about price and availability. Not only didnt they have any information they basically spent about 5 minutes telling me what a piece of junk these guns were and overpriced. Now keep in mind they did not know the price and had never actually seen the guns, go fiqure. has anyone seen these guns? My next step is to call the factory I guess.