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So I have watched hours of YouTube videos and read hours of forums and have learned a lot about how to reload and how to do it safely. I bought a lee all loader and I want to load 12 gauge 2-3/4 #3 steel 1oz- 1-1/8oz in federal (plastic base wad), estate hulls, and fiocci dynamic hulls (white clear hull). I know where to order shot and where to find load data but what do y’all recommend for powder. I’ve seen people say to get steel named powder but I can’t find any locally or online. I’m not insane about speed as long as it stays over 1200 fps. My local supplier has 700x,800x, long shot, hs-6, and 572 in stock.
 

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Youre going to want to snag that 800x and longshot. Longshot will be what you mostly use. You probably wont be able to drop the steel or powder with the LEE load all. Will have to weigh it out by hand and dump it in.
whats the difference between the long shot and the 800x? I have seen people say that long shot is bad for steel since it looses velocity quicker. Also, what would be a good recipe for that load since I can’t find any published load data (have seen some loads on forums but not from hodgdon or precision reloading).
 

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I would recommend that you stay with published loads, especially if you are just getting into this. I have seen some Alliant Steel powder but when it goes on the shelves, it sells quickly. I have a publication from Ballistic Products entitled "Status of Steel" which has 12 ga loads with the 2 3/4" Federal hull and uses HS6, Longshot, Blue Dot and SR4756 powders. Don't know if this book is still in print but if you call Ballistic Products and tell them what you need, I'm pretty sure they can help you.
 

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If the local guy has 800x, get it. Before Alliant Steel powder, 800x was one of the best powders for what you're trying to do, along with 4756 (or so I'm told, I wasn't reloading then). Unfortunately, neither are made anymore, so get it! 800x may present some trouble if you try to drop powder charges using the lee load all. By the way, you'll have to hand weigh the #3 steel shot too.
I have run across some hs6 steel shot data, but it uses a wad that's out of production. So you may have to send a load with a wad you can get to get pressure tested.
Problem with longshot isn't that it loses velocity quicker (not sure how that'd even be possible), but that it develops pressure faster as you increase the powder charge. But it can make steel loads, you just have to respect that.
Honestly, Alliant Steel is the best powder for the job. You just have to keep looking. Till you find it, I'd try 800x and blu dot (also hard to find).
 

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Youre going to want to snag that 800x and longshot. Longshot will be what you mostly use. You probably wont be able to drop the steel or powder with the LEE load all. Will have to weigh it out by hand and dump it in.
I use a Lee Loadall for steel shot and steel powder you just have to make a few alterations to the machine, i can drop 1.5oz of BBB with mine.
Here is a video of it in use
 

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Okay so I’m seeing lots of great feedback and advice and I’m learning a lot. I called BPI and they recommended me get longshot. I’m kinda on the fence because a lot of forums say not to use long shot when reloading steel. If I get long shot I saw a good recipe for 30 grn long shot with 1 oz of #3 shot with a csd100 wad claims to be hitting 1400 fps. I also say a recipe for 25 grn of hs-6 shooting 1 oz of #3 biting 1200 fps. Went to the local shop today and the guys got longshot, new shipment of titewad, hs-6, a shipment of super handicap, and a few bottles of WSF. I don’t care about recoil but I do care about getting decent results without putting 35+ grains of powder charge per shot (trying to stay somewhat economical). I also would like to be able to start out with a powder that’s somewhat easy to find so that I can just rebuy the same components when I run out and I k ow where to find them. what are y’all’s thoughts on the available powder and recipes.
 

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I wouldn't say avoid longshot by any means. Just understand that it can get away from you.
As to being economical, if that's a major consideration, I'd rethink reloading. You can save money reloading, but you'll end up spending those savings on components and equipment.
 

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Okay so I’m seeing lots of great feedback and advice and I’m learning a lot. I called BPI and they recommended me get longshot. I’m kinda on the fence because a lot of forums say not to use long shot when reloading steel. If I get long shot I saw a good recipe for 30 grn long shot with 1 oz of #3 shot with a csd100 wad claims to be hitting 1400 fps. I also say a recipe for 25 grn of hs-6 shooting 1 oz of #3 biting 1200 fps. Went to the local shop today and the guys got longshot, new shipment of titewad, hs-6, a shipment of super handicap, and a few bottles of WSF. I don’t care about recoil but I do care about getting decent results without putting 35+ grains of powder charge per shot (trying to stay somewhat economical). I also would like to be able to start out with a powder that’s somewhat easy to find so that I can just rebuy the same components when I run out and I k ow where to find them. what are y’all’s thoughts on the available powder and recipes.
Longshot will work well with bismuth loading as well, so you have that option.

I’ve loaded some of the 3” 12gauge 33.2gn loads of LS, they work, but there’s a bunch of unburnt powder
 
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