[shrpshtr]

zx2,

i am not familiar with force fetching. how does that work? you work at a kennel that uses this method so can you share some details?

thanks.

 

[shrpshtr]

hey swamp, I think "severe" might be a bit strong of an adjective.

you think "severe" isn't appropriate???????? having your nuts pinched isn't severe? are your's made of steel or something? i like to think mine are but that is a figure of speech at best.

there's other ways to teach a dog to hold. i did my dog. besides, my lab is 130lbs. if you grab his sack, you're likely to draw back a nub! no thanks.