[duckhunter45]

Anybody out there reloading these hulls, looking for method to fill in hole on final crimp from factory loading. I have tried crimp cards
but just does not do the job. Any help appreciated.

Thanks

 

[hamernhonkers]

Sounds like two things. You may need to adjust the crimping hight or the load needs a cork or felt wad in the bottom to fill the wad up. This can happen when you use a small shot size. In order to get the pellets to the top of the wad for a good crimp you may need a filler. Then you will find that when you use larger shot sizes you end up not needing a filler to get a good crimp or a small thinckness of a cork or felt wad.

 

[Ned S]

You can't get rid of the hole in straight walled Winchesters. Just put a dab of hot glue in the hole. That's what I do with 12 gage 3" and 3 1/2" loads. Don't use candle wax. Ned S

 

[pennsyltucky]

unless you want to put a big glob of hot glue or rtv on it, ur outta luck with those things. i hate them win hulls. i just use an o/s card and leave em the way the are.

 

[Ned S]

you mean I've been doing it wrong all these years! Ned S who "aint" out of luck.

 

[F SHOT]

I have had great luck with the 3 in win holes and do exactly as Ned does with the hot glue.

 

[pennsyltucky]

you mean I've been doing it wrong all these years! Ned S who "aint" out of luck.

u been loadin 10ga 3 1/2" win hulls awhile, ned?

 

[Sagebrush]

So, what are you shooting with those loads?

 

[Ned S]

You can't get rid of the hole in straight walled Winchesters. Just put a dab of hot glue in the hole. That's what I do with 12 gage 3" and 3 1/2" loads. Don't use candle wax. Ned S

Dang! don't believe I said a thing about 10 gage 3 1/2 inchers. Read my post seven times. Ned S

 

[ohsay]

I only load them for snows and crows, because I think those hulls suck, but I don't bother filling the hole. I've tested them enough to know that as long as the crimp edge is well set it hardly effects velocity at all.

 

[Ned S]

Yep! but they work great with Fed 209A primer. Ned S

 

[pennsyltucky]

ned, he was asking about the winchester hulls for the 10ga. i posted in regards to that. you didnt. you posted in regards to 12ga hulls. i understand that they have the same hole, but if you look back, i said i hated the hulls, but left the hole open because it mades no difference. my dislike for the 10ga hulls from winchester is due to the much shorter length, terrible plastic for crimping, and their tendency to buckle every time you drop the handle. they are awful for reloading. much worse than the 12ga win hulls for some reason. they are a full 1/4" shorter than the federal hulls.

 

[Ned S]

I understood his and your post completely. I just stated what I do with the hole in the 12 gage hulls. I have no problems with buckling in the 12 gage 3 1/2 inchers as I cheat. I get great crimps as I final crimp them in a sleeve on an old single stage Texan. Also they just cycle and kill fine in my 935.
The greater the Length/Radius ratio the greater the chance to buckle. The 12 gage 3 1/2 ratio is much greater than the 10 gage. Basic "Strength of Materials" data. Buckling can be prevented by a knowledgeable loader. The Brits do it all the time with Win 10 gage hulls. Ned S

 

[pennsyltucky]

ned, i know how to keep it from buckling. i have the piece of pvc here on the bench. its a pain in the butt to load them. if there was a load for the crappy win hulls that was nearly as good as the federals id use em, but there isnt... i just toss em.

i got an old texan loader for free at the gun swap sunday. its a little stiff, but its soaking in PB blaster right now. whats the advantage to the texan? :hijacked:

 

[Ned S]

My single stage Texan came with a 2 3/4 and 3" sleeves. I made a 3 1/2 incher on a lathe and then found the 3" would work on 3 1/2 inchers. The advantage of my single stage Texan is that the final crimp is self adjusting for any length of shell. I resize my 3 1/2 inch hulls on a Super Sizer, deprime and prime, and start crimp on a 3" Mec Jr. Only doing the final crimp on the Texan. Ned S

 

[ohsay]

The greater the Length/Radius ratio the greater the chance to buckle. The 12 gage 3 1/2 ratio is much greater than the 10 gage. Basic "Strength of Materials" data.

That's only true if all other things are equal. Which with those hulls, they're not. I don't like the 12 gauge winnies either, but they're better than the 10s. They really are terrible.

 

[duckhunter45]

Hello:

Hey thanks for all the responses, I load 10 & 12 Guauge with my
P/W 375. 10 guage I load Remington/Federal and they crimp up great, I have 200 of Winchester Hulls and was looking for hints on how to resolve the factory melt/hole in the middle issue. Looks like they will be the last resort or target practice on Crows!!!!

Also just want to let you guys know that "your forum" is great
always lots of excellent topics and help with everything from soup to nuts. When it comes to waterfowl hunting there is no border between the States/Canada it is all GOOD.

Regards

John

 

[Ned S]

Canard from the UK just posted up on the Hull Reloading forum that he has no problem loading 10 gage 3 1/2 Win hulls. Ned S

 

[ohsay]

Good for him.

 

[pennsyltucky]