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Choosing aftermarket chokes

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#1 ·
Keep this in mind...
Shooting ducks is just like any other sport, it takes practice and more practice to get good at it. And, continued practice to keep your skills sharp. Think about it. The guys you watch on TV in football and basketball, etc, dont get that way with out practice almost everyday. Just by screwing on a tighter choke doesnt mean it will make your gun work better for YOU. Most likely, it will decrease your success rate. I have been shooting shotguns for a little over 50 years and it took me most of that time to figure out my first sentence. If you only shoot during waterfowl season and maybe a little dove hunting, then you are restricting your possibilities. For most of my hunting life, a factory IC tube would give me the best results because I was limited by my ability. I needed a bigger pattern to hit birds. A 30 inch pattern at any distance was too small and would create mostly misses. When I screwed in a mod or full choke, I could tell real quick that something was wrong. The IC tube gave me a bigger pattern so I was more successful.
Not until I joined a skeet league and then, on my own, started going to the range at least once a week did I sharpen my shooting skills enough that alowed me to take advantage of the tighter chokes. The tighter chokes put more pellets on the bird for cleaner kills. Until you get a chance to hunt with someone that is an excellent shot, its hard to think of yourself as a sub par shooter. If you are always hunting with the same three buddies that you grew up with you wont see what you are missing and figure I shoot about as good as these guys so I am a pretty good shot.
None of us are a natural born shooter, I dont think. It take practice. Without it we are only average. An average shooter is not going to benefit from the tighter chokes. So, think about it before you shell out your hard earned dollars for that new choke.
If you are happy with average, then stick with your IC choke.

Chris
 
#2 ·
I hit more ducks with a more open choke than a tighter one. But I also wounded alot more and lost plenty of birds. Nothing worse than seeing a bird dive never to come up, or fly 200 yards out and sail down the lake and swim off eventually to die. To solve this I bought a dog, shoot bigger faster steel and as tight as a pattern as I can go with out missiing birds and its helped. With a tight patterning gun when you hit em there dead :sniper:
 
#3 ·
There is nothing more humbling that being out shot. I agree about shooting clays. When I started shooting clays I realized how far my leads were off. I was shooting about a foot behind all the clays at 40 yards. Knowing that I stepped up to a faster load, stepped up my lead just a little and dialed in my polychoke and went from missing all of them to dusting them at 40 yards. People need to realize it's a tool that isn't going to help you right of the box and it is part of a system. You need to know your equipment and use it regularly. It took me thousands of rounds before I felt comfortable enough to step down to a smaller choke.
 
#4 ·
I disagree. I don't shoot large steel shot and 10 gauge shotguns on the trap range. I can't tell you how many times I have reached for the safety and it not be where it has always been, the leads are very different, and the gun swings completely different. I have to think to make the shot during duck season. It is not sub-conscious.
 
#5 ·
Huckleberry said:
I disagree. I don't shoot large steel shot and 10 gauge shotguns on the trap range. I can't tell you how many times I have reached for the safety and it not be where it has always been, the leads are very different, and the gun swings completely different. I have to think to make the shot during duck season. It is not sub-conscious.
As duck season gets closer I do shoot the load I am going to use that season on clays first. Even if you do spend all summer shooting lead you have the muscle memory of a quick shouldering and a quick acquisition of your target. I know right were my safety is every time and I know where my trigger fires. To me that's like being married to woman and not know what color her eyes are. Does firing my gun 200 times a week make me a better duck hunter? Not necessarily but I do know exactly how my gun is going to preform. Just my 2¢ ~Jon
 
#8 ·
Shooting clays with almost any gun will still help you with whatever you choose to hunt with. Ifs funny to me that I shoot my O/U at the skeet range and when I get in the duck blind, I shoot my 30" barreled 10ga better than my 12ga. I hardly ever hunt ducks with my O/U and I never shoot clays with my 10ga. I want to be able too shoot all my shotguns well. I thrive on the challlenge it offers me.
Powdering clays is much harder than nailing ducks which works out well.

Chris
 
#9 ·
I agree compleatly..It takes practice..more time spent shooting the better off you are.
I know many hunters who spend all there time with Calls, Decoys,Boats and other tools of the sport,
but spend no effort on there shooting. Then ya hear em whine when they miss the perfect decoyed bird.
I spend most my summer shooting my O/U and then early season ducks. then bring out the auto a bit later
and its feels just as good. 5 years ago I realised really how bad of a shot I was and decided to fix it.
Shooting more during the off season (skeet) and talking to some real shooters has helped alot. I have over doubled my
ratio and have far far less cripples. I pick my chokes for the size shot im using for the most expected bird of the day
and what the average distance will be. Each shell has its prefered tube to meet the goal of the day.
Harvesting ducks is the goal. If ya can't hit em ya can't harvest em even over the nicest decoys.

Spry
 
#10 ·
10gaOkie said:
Shooting clays with almost any gun will still help you with whatever you choose to hunt with. Ifs funny to me that I shoot my O/U at the skeet range and when I get in the duck blind, I shoot my 30" barreled 10ga better than my 12ga. I hardly ever hunt ducks with my O/U and I never shoot clays with my 10ga. I want to be able too shoot all my shotguns well. I thrive on the challlenge it offers me.
Powdering clays is much harder than nailing ducks which works out well.

Chris
Good comments on all points. Every off season I shoot a few weekends of trap and occassional skeet...I used to consider myself a pretty good shot in the duck blind and at the range. This summer was the first time I had ever tried sporting clays (what I wild concept!); I began in June and have been putting in 1-2 rds of clays each week ever since and put well over 1000rds through my gun. I always take my field hunting gun because 1. I'm too poor to afford the fancy O/U I would like to own and 2. I get a better 'feel' for how my gun shoots so when I'm actually shooting at a bird i can place my shots better. Ive come along way now since when I started and now I would say with confidence that I'm a DECENT shot! I average 80-82/100 and still on a regular basis I get my butt whooped! Its definitely a humbling experience.

Just like sighting in a rifle for deer season, I think it is a must to pattern your bird gun of choice. If you can get a good load to pattern exceptionally well with a given choke at your typical shooting range, you greatly improve your ability to harvest game....whether you consider yourself a good shot or not. If that means you might want to get an aftermarket choke to increase pattern efficiencey then go for it! Its all in the name of improving your chances of harvesting game. But the key is to combine a good pattern w/ a good shot :thumbsup:
 
#11 ·
Good post and I can't agree more. Being perfectly honest, I am very guilty of not putting in the time in the off season. I get laxed in the thinking that one shotgun shoots like another which is far from the truth. I have put more time into my boat, calls and decoys than I have one of the most important parts of my gear. I can really appreciate what is said here. It puts everything into perspective.
 
#12 ·
We always make an event of it where we get all my family together and we have both our upland guns and our duck guns and we split up the time between the two. I'm not dusting as many with my duck gun and steel loads but I know where my trigger releases, I know what the recoil feels like and any little quarks like jamming can be fixed in the off season now. Also if I'm shooting decoying birds the lead isn't as big of an issue but because of off season work I can get the gun on that second or third bird much quicker and accurately.